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The jig is up for Trump: Special Master has asked declassification details

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Patricio Da Silva, Sep 20, 2022.

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    It sounds like you got your cases confused.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Sep 21, 2022
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  2. omni

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    Trump is the plaintiff. The burden of proof is on him.
     
    omni, Sep 21, 2022
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  3. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Trump already won his case when he got the special master appointed.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Sep 21, 2022
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  4. omni

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    Trump hasn't won anything. When Trump gets those documents back and proves executive privilege, let me know.
     
    omni, Sep 21, 2022
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  5. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Sep 21, 2022
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    PPark66, Sep 21, 2022
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    popscott, Sep 21, 2022
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    Last edited: Sep 21, 2022
    omni, Sep 21, 2022
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  9. omni

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    omni, Sep 21, 2022
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    And I believe it should be revisited. It doesn't make logical sense to claim 'one executive', but then oh, said one executive has privilege to documents created by previous administrations and thereby executives.
     
    AmericanNationalist, Sep 21, 2022
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  11. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    And that's what the special master will determine and no doubt some will be returned. They took tax docs and medical records FFS.
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe, Sep 21, 2022
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    take all of trumps toys away (documents) if any are still classified lock him up...should only take a few days
     
    bobobrazil, Sep 21, 2022
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  13. popscott

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    No... Biden did it.... it is not whataboutism time....

    Let me repeat because you missed it the first time..
    Your communist dictator ruler has waved Trump's executive privileges
    https://archive.ph/Z6FAJ
    https://archive.ph/5pG19

    https://www.archives.gov/files/foia...23-2022-trump-privilege-letter.04.13.2022.pdf


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    popscott, Sep 21, 2022
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    Delete
     
    PPark66, Sep 21, 2022
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  15. omni

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    Biden is exerting the authority vested in him by the constitution and affirmed by the courts. Did you have a problem when Trump declassified Susan Rice's email concerning the Oval office meeting with Obama and Biden about Flynn and Russia?
     
    omni, Sep 21, 2022
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  16. MiaBleu

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    DOJ can resume criminal probe of classified documents from Mar-a-Lago, appeals court says

    A federal appeals court is allowing the Justice Department to continue looking at documents marked as classified that were seized from former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago home and resort.

    The emergency intervention upends a trial judge's order over those documents that blocked federal investigators' work on the documents.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/21/poli...c66+MeAvO1JlWUmK3DSpJIIF8&bt_ts=1663804000494


    It all could be closing in on him now..

    Just maybe the law will prevail..........
     
    MiaBleu, Sep 21, 2022
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    AGAIN....

    Biden did it.... it is not whataboutism time....

    Feel free to post facts and the documentations... at least put some efforts into your response instead of your lame claims... REPEAT AFTER ME....
    executive privilege.... executive privilege..... executive privilege... not emails..

    Let me repeat once again.... because you missed it the first time..
    Your communist dictator ruler has waved Trump's executive privileges
    https://archive.ph/Z6FAJ
    https://archive.ph/5pG19

    https://www.archives.gov/files/foia...23-2022-trump-privilege-letter.04.13.2022.pdf

    [​IMG]
     
    popscott, Sep 21, 2022
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    It's not Donald Trump's executive privilege. It belongs to the executive branch.
     
    WhoDatPhan78, Sep 21, 2022
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    Donald Trump is the Joe off the street when it comes to politicians
     
    Joe knows, Sep 21, 2022
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  20. freedom8

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    The DoJ has just won an important part of its appeal to the 11th district court. DoJ will be allowed to follow up its investigation regarding the classified documents (unanimous decision by 3 judges: 1 named by Obama, 2 by Trump). And the Special Master will not be allowed to look at them.

    PS: Sorry MiaBleu, I hadn't see your post #166!

    As a bonus, couldn't the NY state AG subpoena the Trump tax returns she has been trying to get for months?
     
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    freedom8, Sep 21, 2022
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    omni, Sep 21, 2022
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    That was a brutal smackdown of Trump by the 11th. The 11th has a rule that you can't appeal a stay to the 11th en banc, so Trump's only option is the SC, and the SC isn't going to touch this.

    Some highlights:
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    For our part, we cannot discern why Plaintiff would have an individual interest in or need for any of the one-hundred documents with classification markings….

    Plaintiff has not even attempted to show that he has a need to know the information contained in the classified documents. Nor has he established that the current administration has waived that requirement for these documents. …

    In sum, given the long-recognized 'compelling interest in protecting . . . the secrecy of information important to our national security,' we conclude that the United States would suffer irreparable harm from the district court’s restrictions.
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    Yes, it's true. Courts are not impressed when criminals argue that prosecution isn't allowed because it would inconvenience them.
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    “does not have a possessory interest in the documents at issue, so he does not suffer a cognizable harm if the United States reviews documents he neither owns nor has a personal interest in. Second, we find unpersuasive Plaintiff’s insistence that he would be harmed by a criminal investigation.”
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    This is the part that says "Judge Cannon, you moron, you messed up"
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    Either way, the court’s exercise of its inherent authority is subject to two limits: (1) it “must be a reasonable response to the problems and needs confronting the court’s fair administration of justice,” and (2) it “cannot be contrary to any express grant of or limitation on the district court’s power contained in a rule or statute.” Dietz v. Bouldin, 136 S. Ct. 1885, 1892 (2016) (quotation omitted). The district court did not explain why the exercise of its inherent authority concerning the documents with classified markings would fall within these bounds, other than its reliance on its Richey-factor analysis. We have already explained why that analysis was in error.
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    mamooth, Sep 21, 2022
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    We need to exile him to a deserted island!

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    Lucifer, Sep 21, 2022
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    The Orange Stain expected him to capitulate and side with him. As proven, time and time again, he's a horrible pathetic business manager.
     
    MJ Davies, Sep 21, 2022
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    He has managed to fool of and manipulated a lot of people and hurt a lot more... with callous indifference.

    He is a FRAUD to the bone.........with IMAGE of wealth being everything........at any cost.

    His past is now catching up with him.......... and about time. He has created his own false reality;y..........and now it might shatter and as the real world pent rates his false illusions (self created)

    Just like most psychopaths.......when cornered........the lash out angrily with projection on everyone else but himself.

    He has no capacity for insight of his own behavior...........let alone to learn from his mistakes..............because in his mind he is perfect...and does not make mistakes.

    He would make an interesting subject for psychological studies....... .But in the meantime let the law do its job..............
     
    MiaBleu, Sep 21, 2022
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