New York AG Sues Trump Family for Financial Fraud

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Jesus, I totally missed that desperation. @ShadowX , his adult children are part of this because they ALSO help lead this corrupt enterprise. At least two of them have already been caught fleecing investors in civil cases. Crying daddy is a poor excuse for fraud.
     
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    ShadowX Well-Known Member

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    Well that’s better than you guys. Speaking of lacking evidence how many investigations have y’all done and how many crimes have you uncovered evidence of enough you can take trump to criminal court and yet you still refer to him as a criminal?

    All of our investigations are yet to come.
     
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  3. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Buddy, Trump hasn't exactly come up smelling like a rose in the civil cases. Trump University? Trump's fake charity? Trump SoHo? Remember? The criminal investigations, all of which are still ongoing, came out after he left office. And this thread is about a civil suit. This whole fact allergy that you and Trump's other defenders have going on in this thread isn't going to work on those of us who haven't been brainwashed.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    No evidence of A CRIME. Get it, now?...lol

    Us big boys know how to read and comprehend what we've read.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Your own post proves this isn't the case. If you were one of the "big boys" who knew how to read and comprehend, you'd know this thread was about the civil case, and that the criminal case is in the hands of Bragg, not James. And you'd know about the fruit that the separate criminal investigation has already borne.
     
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    I'm not surprised at the lack of criminal charges, she knows she would lose. NEW YORK’S LAWSUIT AGAINST DONALD TRUMP lS MORE LAWFARE THAN LAWSUIT “I expect the case will be dropped or tossed after a couple motion to dismiss rounds. Maybe there will be a small, piddling settlement the AG will claim is a victory. It’s not a real lawsuit. It’s lawfare. And I hope red AGs are taking note of the new rules.”

    Yes. Take note of the new rules Red State AG's. If that's the way these Blue State AG's want to play it, then wipe the floor with them.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    She wasn't looking into criminal charges. She was looking into civil charges. And criminal charges have already been issued in a separate case. Catch up.

    If you really believed that, you'd take me up on the friendly wager I've offered others. Trump obviously thought there was more grounds to this than you do. He tried offering a settlement before the suit was even announced.
     
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  8. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm completely not surprised at the lack of criminal charges because that was never a possible goal here... stay tuned if any of her criminal referrals go anywhere....

    Fraud never really has been a Red or Blue issue, but it's certainly now an Orange issue...
     
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    It will take years - but eventually they will settle on a dollar amount and it will go away
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    He'd better offer a much better settlement soon, because somebody is going to go bankrupt trying to defend T**** from going bankrupt

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-save-america-pacs-legal-212056880.html

    Can't wait to see how September's numbers roll in

    Making
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    Isn't the one the judge ordered to put up or shut up? Didn't a judge order her off the case due to prejudice?
     
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    Doesn't look like it, but provide a source if you want. Looks like she's "putting up" regardless.
     
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    If she wins, it will mess up the Trump family. Count on it.
     
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    Then why didn't the two year CRIMINAL investigation by Vance indict him for a crime? Why didn't any investors sue him?
     
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    They indicted his company for crimes. And Trump's defense was that he didn't actually know what was going on at his company . . . the opposite of what he said in public. His investors did sue over Trump SoHo, just like his "students" did. The Trump Org settled . . . just like they tried to do here . . . before the suit even existed. Trump's fake "university" has been dissolved for its corruption. Trump's fake "charity" has been dissolved for his corruption. Trump Org is likely next.
     
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    If you had a good lawyer you wouldn't. This AG doesn't care about property valuations she wants to get Trump on ANYTHING including some perjury trap because that is what she ran her campaign on and I noted at the time she should recuse herself from ANY Trump matters because of her obvious bias towards Trump.
     
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    She's gone into great detail about the issues with his untruthful property valuations. And prosecutors don't just recuse themselves for not liking the actions of the people they are prosecuting.
     
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    Still gotta prove damages in the civil case.

    Couldn't get him criminally, but they can prove a loss and damages.

    Sure sounds like double jeopardy to me, except they couldn't even get an indictment in the criminal case.

    I won't hold my breath for a verdict for the AG for civil damages.
     
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    That's not what double jeopardy means. And they already got Trump Org on indictments in the criminal case. But if you are so confident, I've offered a friendly wager with regards to the civil case that no Trump supporter will take me up on. Feel free to be the first. Or do like the others and prove that your bravado is fake.
     
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    LOL.... that concept is WAY too late, my friend...

    It will make the T**** family have fewer resources with which to grift more....
     
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    1. About the only true statement from a MAGA poster on this entire thread!
    2. Tish didn't try
    3. LMAO.. not remotely double jeopardy... .it's not even single jeopardy, since it's not criminal.
    4. Since the burden of proof is much less than at a criminal trial, I think she stands a very good chance of getting a high monetary verdict... T**** was not very subtle with his lies...

    Maybe not 250M, but who knows, it could be more... that was just her suggested amount...
     
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    It will be wonderful to watch Trump finally have to be responsible for his actions. Between this and his stolen documents, I can't imagine he'll get off without consequences. That is a man who not used to having consequences and those are the people who need them the most.
     
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    Actually, they would be barred from buying property in New York for five years. They could be barred from running a business in New York for life.

    Ouch, indeed... :buggered:
     
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    We do need to address the criminal referrals to IRS and SDNY.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/21/tru...-to-prosecutors-and-irs-by-letitia-james.html

    I don't believe SDNY has ever been involved in any of these T**** financial investigations. She's obviously bypassing Bragg in Manhattan, since he doesn't seem to have the heart for this business...

    The IRS referral is probably pro forma... I wouldn't expect much to come out of that one, but SDNY can be a pitbull and they've got experience in dealing with Individual 1....
     
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    Sounds like James may have already made criminal referrals, not sure whether they were federal, state or both.
     

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