Trump will win the nomination uncontested

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  1. gfm7175

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    For starters, he will be abandoning the citizens of Florida who elected him to be their governor...

    This is possible, either via "battered conservative syndrome", RNC club shenanigans, or both. I will be wholeheartedly supporting Trump though.

    This DEFINITELY won't happen, as 2020 and 2022 election fraud hasn't been fixed nor strategized around yet. Given the current election fraud situations within a number of key states (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Nevada, and even Wisconsin to some extent), and the current electioneering strategies of Republicans in those states, there is currently NO viable "path to 270" for DeSantis or ANY Republican for that matter, including Trump. That's why Trump MUST be the spearhead for this cycle, as he fully understands the situation at hand and what he (and we) are up against. DeSantis doesn't.

    That's because it IS a fairy tale. Biden simply had the most ballots printed/distributed/harvested/adjudicated for him... He did NOT receive the most votes from voters... Trump did, though.

    But if Republicans ever want to win in those states that I mentioned above ever again (same goes for a number of other states that I didn't bother to mention), then they must also go after ballots instead of voters.
     
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    Yet you can't even list one single crime for me??
     
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    What communists would those be?
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's a reason for that.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In case you missed it, Judge David Carter, a federal district court judge for the Central District of California, has done it again—flat-out stated in a judicial opinion that Donald J. Trump likely committed multiple federal crimes in connection with the January 6th insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.

    The case was brought by John Eastman, the former law school dean at Chapman University who infamously penned a lawless six-point plan for former Vice President Mike Pence to halt the counting of Electoral College certifications on January 6, 2021, a maneuver aimed at tossing out the election results and illegally installing Trump as president. The House January 6th Committee subpoenaed Eastman’s emails from Chapman, and Eastman sued in January 2021 to stop his former employer from complying. After the court denied Eastman’s initial request for a preliminary injunction stopping the whole thing, a tedious process of identifying which documents were arguably protected from disclosure ensued. It’s now been wrapped up.

    Two legal issues were at issue here. First, attorney-client privilege: If a communication is confidential between an attorney and client and it involves legal advice, it is privileged and need not be turned over. (Although, as Judge Carter explains, “advice on political, strategic, or policy issues” is not protected.) Second, work product privilege: If a document is made in anticipation of litigation or trial, the team’s work product—especially any information regarding the attorneys’ litigation strategy—largely remains confidential.

    https://www.thebulwark.com/federal-judge-once-again-notes-trumps-likely-post-election-crimes/
     
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    No fraud exists sufficient to prove the allegation that 'Democrats stole the election'. Election irregularities and anomalies occur in every election and they are usually dealt with internally and fixed but none of them were judged sufficient to alter the outcome of any election in any district, let alone prove the allegation that 'Democrats stole the election'.

    If you have it, please provide it. However....

    You'd think if there were evidence that could withstand forensic scrutiny, of the 60 or so lawsuits Trump and his surrogates filed, at least one of the lawyers would have submitted it. They tried, and none were upheld as evidence sufficient to prove 'democrats stole the election' and/or toss out the ballots of any district. If they didn't have it, I doubt that you have or anyone else has.


    TRUMP V. BOOCKVAR
    "Charges require specific allegations and proof. We have neither here."

    TRUMP V. WISCONSIN ELECTIONS COMMISSION
    "The Court has allowed [the former President] the chance to make his case and
    he has lost on the merits."


    KING V. WHITMER
    "...nothing but speculation and conjecture that votes for President Trump were
    destroyed, discarded or switched to votes for Vice President Biden."


    KING V. WHITMER (sanctions against 9 Trump attorneys including Sidney Powell)
    "...a historic and profound abuse of the judicial process."

    REPORT: LOST, NOT STOLEN (A report by Republican Attorneys)
    "Donald Trump and his supporters have failed to present evidence of fraud or
    inaccurate results significant enough to invalidate the results of the 2020
    Presidential Election."
     
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    The Democrat Party and many of their voters.
     
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    Yup. They feel that their elitist status quo is threatened.
     
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    You have not listed a single crime by Trump. Try again.
     
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    We have far too many unknowns, and far too much tolerance of shenanigans. The lack of consistency with historical precedents is off the charts, so any prediction, including mine, is a guesstimate.
    We need to get government back on a basis or order, and add honor as a requirement to keep your job.

    Bad governance is producing bad judgment in the people, and loss of values- because the examples of government set the precedent for it.
     
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    You'd have found this if you had read a little further. I find you defenders of Trump to be quite lazy in your reading habits.

    Back in March, Carter found that the crime-fraud exception did apply to some of Eastman’s emails, and named the crimes in which Eastman and Trump were “likely” implicated: obstruction of Congress’s proceeding to count the electoral votes, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1512(c)(2), and conspiracy to defraud the United States through disruption of the electoral count, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371.
     
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    Did you ever stop to ask they they are against him, that he is unfit for office and a threat to national security?
     
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    None of that is surprising. And it's not because Biden is so great, but because people really wanted somebody other than Trump to be president and so turned out to vote. The turnout was high on both sides as well.

    The counties statistic mostly reflects urbanization and polarization. More people concentrated in the urban counties, and a higher proportion of people in counties voting for one candidate. Democrats tend to believe in one person, one vote. Republicans tend to believe in the rights of places like states (even counties) to be decentralized mini states.
     
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    Post reported for too much logic and facts, not enough conspiracy BS
     
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    Well, there's so many. At the top of the list Nationally there is Seditious Conspiracy, many counts in fact. At the State level there is; Using the full power and office of the Presidency of The United States to influence State election officials to unlawfully change the outcome of their election for President.
     
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    What is your evidence for this delusional allegation?
     
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    What's notable is that the percentage of counties Biden carried was the lowest in history, ye the votes for him the highest in history. Incongruity. Counties do vary hugely in population, but still, skeptical numbers.
    You may read the constitution differently, but most acknowledge that the constitution limits what the federal government can do, and all authority not specifically granted to fed belongs to the states. It's been so from the beginning.
     
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    Not based upon that alone. I'll show you what I mean with a simplified example. If Trump carried 50 rural counties with 10,000 people on average each with 60% of the vote and Biden carries just one 1,000,000 person county with 80% of the vote the numbers would be: 200k+800k = 1 million to Biden vs 300k+200k = 500k to Trump... that would be Biden winning by a margin of 2:1 but only winning almost 2% of counties. For perspective: LA county = 10 million... the smallest in Hawaii has 86 persons. So all kinds of crazy numbers are possible.

    I don't worship our constitution. I think it did a great job considering the times, but that doesn't make it perfect. If we are going to ask people to vote, their votes shouldn't be weighted based upon whether they are in a rural area vs not, but that's the natural consequences of how it was set up. This point was more a reaction to how republican often show how red the county map of the US looks. I don't care if a nearly-empty stretch of land is republican. It's about number of people if we're going to elect them democratically.
     
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    Repubs tend to believe in the EC because it affords the minority disproportionate power to influence presidential elections.
     
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    As the old saying goes: you may not why, but he knows.
     
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    There is no problem with the constitution- except that people aren't following it. Nothing you replace is with is going to work either, when you won't follow the rules. That IS the place to start, because that IS the root cause of most of today problems- people abandoning honor, order, and sound principles.

    The vote IS about the number of people, and county populations vary hugely. But anyone who looks at all the characteristics of that election and doesn't find serious reasons for concern is deluding themselves.
    When a plow horse comes out of the cloud at the last second and wins the kentucky derby on a very foggy day.... why should you any question it? Because you aren't stupid.
     
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    You still haven't listed any crimes that he's committed.
     

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