Get Woke, Go Broke: How Higher Ed’s Push for “Equity” is Backfiring, Hard.

but but but a living wage is a living wage. Surely if you earn a living wage you can afford all of that.

 

All while Liberals are going around reducing curriculum making it easier for everyone to pass classes. Heck Liberals, not Republicans, are even trying to remove Math and English. And, you are speaking of the dumming down of society . . .

Basically, if you show up, you graduate. If you cannot find a job that suits you, there are plenty of hand outs available! Keep em dumb so they can keep them voting Democrat! That is the liberal way!

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/09...rop-high-school-essential-skill-requirements/

 

Don't forget truck driving school. Those drivers are making a nice living wage.

 

So your broad generalizations do not go to extremes, but those you disagree with are extreme. As I was working on advance degrees in Nuclear Engineering, you geniuses were fighting for coal fired power and against safe, renewable power from PWRs.

The same geniuses who fought against the Tellico Dam and for coal fired power plants are, today, whining about the Climate Change they may well have caused.

It isn't extreme to note the similarity between Margaret Sanger's legacy and those in Europe who wanted to exterminate Jews. It isn't extreme to wonder whether my Great Grandparents, Great Aunt and Great Uncle who died in the Holocaust were victims of FDR and Breckenridge Long who conspired to deny Jews asylum. It's just a fact that FDR turned away the MS St Louis because it had 900 Jews on board, a death sentence for hundreds when they were forced to return to Europe.

Harvard's legacy includes being “complicit in enhancing the prestige of the Nazi regime” through the warm welcome extended to Ernst Franz Sedgwick Hanf-staengl, Hitler's international propagandist.

https://www.bostonmagazine.com/2006/05/15/the-harvard-nazi/

People hailing from the American left should not be looking down their noses at Republicans. My point!

 

This was part of your topic that I addressed:

Leftists love college indoctrination. The more years they can keep someone on campus the more consistently they will vote left. Therefore, those with brains view the following with alarm:

"College enrollments are plummeting — nationwide undergraduate enrollment fell by 650,000 in a single year, spring 2021 to 2022. It’s down 14% in the past decade, even as the US population' increased by six and half percent.

Voting left means voting for less knowledge. You say "those with brains view the following with alarm and you mention that college enrollments are plummetting because people don't want to be classified as Woke. That they choose Liberty first."

To me, education is worth everything. Knowledge is the most important thing to have. Woke is great. To me, being Woke means having the necessary knowledge to find solutions. Refusing Woke is becoming a cult member that kowtows to ignorance and to leaders that tell him/her how think and what to think.

Of course, and like everything in life, there are positives and negatives. A person looks for the negatives (as you are doing in this OP), you will find them for sure. What needs to be mentioned for it to have any value are the positives (which is what I am trying to do). The only way that anything can be evaluated is by having all the knowledge of the issue and not just one side of the issue (as you are doing).

 

You have to come up with a whole lot of more proof than the article you provided to prove that the dumming down of society is occurring. To begin with, this article is about what "one" State did and that State is not known for having a good education system to begin with and is not know for producing smart people that help the country.

Second of all, it is the left that is trying to upgrade the education system by offering solutions to student debt that allows more people to go to higher education schools (Biden has that in place though the Right has temporarily stopped him from instituting it).

As far as voting dumb so they vote Democrats, that is patently ridiculous as it is mostly the dumb people and uneducated people in the suburbs (proven) that vote Republican.

Proof: Republicans Really Are Dumber Than Democrats

 

I lost you somewhere along the line. Nonetheless, I think you are comparing things to the way they were before and not the way they are now. The Republicans have been in a nosedive down for the past 30 years. The Democrats have also been heading lower but not as low or at the same pace as the Republicans. Everything is worse than it was before as the entire country (even the entire world to a smaller degree) is deteriorating.

I do not see a solution until a worldwide catastrophe occurs that forces people to see what is wrong and what needs to be changed. Too many people have their priorities in the wrong place. Priority should be advance, knowledge, and better everything and not power, greed, and money.

 

And what are some of these negatives in higher education's push for "equity" rather than equality under the law?

 

Don't get me wrong as I agree with what this administration is doing as far as Education. Biden didn't do anything, it is his handlers that are working on it. He is just the mouth piece.

What I referenced in Oregon is something they are talking about doing to California as well. When that happens, what Liberal reply will they tell you to repeat then?

 

"Negatives in the push for equity rather than equality?"

The negatives are that like everything in life, economics, greed, selfishness, are involved. To accomplish some equity and equality at the same time, the government has to assume some of the costs involved. Biden is trying to do that right now with the bill have absolves students of some of their education debt. Unfortunately, he is not being allowed to do that by the special interests of greedy and selfish people that do not want to participate by paying more taxes.

 

When and "if" it happens, we will discuss it then. Assuming it will happen is not an option.

 

Don't worry, the Liberals are deadset to make it happen asap so that the kids can learn more about LGBT with Trans Pole Dancing classes to complete their education!!!

 

yep, and if the right starts putting up statues of Hitler in the center of towns, we will tear those down too

the losers don't get statues and names on schools and such.... the Confederates were the losers

 

So remain sleep, ignorant, and unaware wondering why ur going nowhere huh.

None of those institutions are broke by the way, there is alot of money in woke media, quit the hate, and it's don't get woke then remain broke. Which most the people complaining about the movement are anyway.

 

??? why would you mention LGBT? Mentioning it suggests that your are biased against it and any bias on this topic suggests you are not addressing the topic from a data/fact basis but from a personal bias basis.

I am not interested in biases. To me, they are ridiculous and negative to anything and everything. I am all for knowledge but I am 100% against opinion.

This world is full of anything and everything that a mind can conceive. There are more than 4 billion people on this earth and LGBT is as much a part of this planet as anything can be. You cannot push it away any more than you can stop a hurricane from occurring. Are you trying to do that?

 

That's not true. He is trying to do it by Executive Order not a Congressional bill, though he has lied about this more than once.

 

From your source: "
But wait, there’s more. The Gartner consulting firm recently recommended its 15,000 clients, in the name of equity, consider hiring people without degrees at all. The focus on degrees is bad for “underrepresented candidates” because they’re less likely to have attended, or finished, college. Gartner suggests employers instead focus on “assessing candidates solely on their ability to perform in the role,” rather than on their “formal education and experience.”

Far be it from me to criticize hiring people based on their ability to do the job instead of the polish of their résumés, but this is a huge departure from the past, and it spells bad news for the people who’ve been selling the polish. If employees are no longer hired based on credentials, the market for credentials is going to head south.
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Leftist here. Sounds like a welcome trend to solving the crisis with education debt. I guess that sucks if it makes voters dumber, but in the long run we can't afford having everybody spending years out of the workforce just to be a better voter.

As far as Ivy League goes, the idea is that there are more resources and connections there than other colleges. And so, an ambitious person will find more opportunities of all kinds there. It's not just the line on the resume. It really does have value. But can it be squandered by somebody just skating by? Sure. But skating by there would usually also be more than skating by elsewhere. The difficulty of comparing educational experiences from school to school is why we have aptitude tests like the MCAT. But each thing is just one of many components.

 

Nonetheless, he is trying and the Republicans are trying to stop him. That shows that the Democrats are trying to get the "equity and equality" moving forward and the Republicans are not.

 

No, not "none-the-less" an executive order is not a bill passed by the Free Legislature.

More Fake News, the Legislature hasn't granted the President this authority. Dems controlled the Congress and could have passed a bill to accomplish this, or granted the President the authority to do so, and they did neither.

More fake news. Students are simply being asked to repay the loans on the terms they agreed to. It's neither "equity nor equality" to have working class with high school educations paying off the student debt of the gentry class with advanced degrees.

 

Pure BS.

 

Why would Americans who earned their treasure by embracing free markets and working to earn the American Dream want to hand money to promote Socialism (which has failed everywhere it's been tried) by making it easy for weak minds to tap into an historic loser with little or no investment. A visit to commencement reveals how socialist losers are groomed. The little robots are enticed to sign up for training in a Marxist Curriculum of one variety or another ,,, with one thing in common ,,, not one of them will support a career capable of paying the skyrocketing cost caused by skyrocketing demand for worthless indoctrination. The curricula sound like "Gender Studies", "African American Studies", "Hispanic Studies", "LGBTQ+ Studies". If Democrats would like to pay to groom future Marxists / Democrat voters, they certainly should be able to support their party with political contributions. No one is stopping you from putting your generosity on display.

One thing we should all be able to agree on is that White Democrats who benefited from slavery should pay reparations to the families of Republicans who lost their lives in the Civil War and descendants of African Americans who were slaves and did not own slaves. That should settle whatever score needs to be settled.

 

I am not against it as I work with many LGBT folk including friends except whenever Liberals make comments like you just did!

Regardless, I am against LGBT and Trans being involved in anything to do with Government owned and sponsored Education. Let people make their life choices outside the classroom and not be pushed towards something they may not truly be into just because some ultra liberal defines the kids before they grow up!

 

Socialism has failed everywhere it has been tried? Are you sure about that?

The World's Top 10 Countries for Quality of Life, 2021 - CEO World

1. Finland - 99.06
2. Denmark - 98.13
3. Norway - 96.75
4. Belgium - 96.53
5. Sweden - 96.15
6. Switzerland - 94.40
7. Netherlands - 93.69
8. France - 92.08
9. Germany - 91.26
10. Japan - 91.23

Do you notice that the U.S. is not on the top 10 list of countries with a high quality of life?

 

Well the wokesters here don't seem to know anything about the indoctrination and erosion of values in our schools. And you can't educate them about any of the subjects. Wokesters in California want to dumb down math education because blacks do poorly with the current curriculum.

But of course you don't know that. Now you are going to demand proof. I have provided links to this fact haf a dozen times, but wokesters seem impervious to facts which contradict their world view. They are the ones refusing knowledge.

Here is a link to what I've been discussing:

https://www.newsweek.com/california...ath and science from across California put it.

Perhaps it will register in your brain for a few milliseconds.

You all think you are so smart. It ain't true. Wokeism is a cult.

 

So knowledge is not important in education, right? Let's teach our kids what we think they should know and be sure we teach them that being transexual is wrong. That we do not want any of that in our country, at least not in a position where they can affect our thinking, right?

By the way, I am as straight as it gets. I love women and would not ever consider any kind of sexual situation with another man. Nonetheless, this does not come from having learned it but from my own genetics and chromosomes. I have no problem with a member of the LGBT community being a teacher as life is about each person attaining their own goals, whatever they may be. It is the lack of knowledge that creates problems.