Comer et al. are Putin Pawns.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Patricio Da Silva, Feb 21, 2024.

  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,323
    Likes Received:
    17,414
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Doesn't matter, fooled no more, he's indicted for lying.

    That just undermined the Comer's case,. it's down the toilet.

    Sorry,. you lose
     
  2. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,323
    Likes Received:
    17,414
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I could find no evidence Smirnoff was being paid.

    Prove it.

    If anything, he was being paid by Putin, no doubt.
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2024
    Hey Now likes this.
  3. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,323
    Likes Received:
    17,414
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What are you talking about? The senate bill had big bucks for Ukraine, but the House didn't let it go to the floor for a vote.

    If Ukraine falls, that's on Republicans in the house. Repubs in the senate voted for it.
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,323
    Likes Received:
    17,414
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    You lose

     
  5. ToughTalk

    ToughTalk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2018
    Messages:
    12,615
    Likes Received:
    9,571
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Putin prefers Biden.
     
    ButterBalls and Bullseye like this.
  6. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2018
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    15,451
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Now you're just regurgitating your own false propaganda because I provided you with Wrays own testimony and YOU KNOW what he stated about Smirnov.

    Another ‘trusted’ FBI informant discredited, renewing concerns over bureau’s vetting
    https://justthenews.com/accountabil...-fbi-informant-discredited-renewing-red-flags
    After all, just a few short months earlier, FBI Director Christopher Wray had vouched for the source, Alexander Smirnov, telling lawmakers his name shouldn’t be disclosed because he had been “invaluable” to law enforcement and was so “trusted and credible” the U.S. government had paid him hundreds of thousands of dollars for his information.

    Then you knowingly create a thread on information you knew was false.

    Before the committee knew anything about Smirnov, Wray (Testified under oath) he was a trusted and credible source paid hundreds of thousands of dollars over 14 years.
    As soon as the committee subpoenas the 1024 on Smirnov, and get Smirnovs information, the FBI decides to charge him with lying.

    So it magically took from 2020 (When Smirnov made gave his testimony of Biden) to 2024 to charge Smirnov with lying on this 1024, and it just so happened right after the committee gets his 1024 and makes it public?

    The left is the most gullible and best trained media regurgitators the world has ever seen.


     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2024
    ButterBalls likes this.
  7. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,109
    Likes Received:
    37,843
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Amazing how they’re always involved with the dirt and lies about trump opponents. Crazy coincidence I’m sure,
     
    Quantum Nerd likes this.
  8. HockeyDad

    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2019
    Messages:
    5,336
    Likes Received:
    6,923
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    If you care so passionately about Ukraine falling, you are free to strap on a rifle and go fight for them. You can prove to all of us how virtuous you are and how much more you care about a country that most of us can't find on a map.

    Ukraine is going to lose, there is no other outcome available. No amount of American weapons was ever going to change that. If they had negotiated at the beginning of the war, they would have gotten much better terms than they can get now. Each year claims more Ukrainian lives and weakens their bargaining position. This is blatantly obvious to any rational person paying even a modicum of attention to the details on the ground. I blame America for scuttling a peace deal at the beginning of this war and for prolonging the war. I would like to see no money going to Ukraine, not a single dime. I applaud the Republicans in the house for not voting for it. They are correctly implementing the will of people like me who voted them into office. Shame on the Republicans in the Senate for voting for it, absolutely reprehensible.

    upload_2024-2-22_5-49-57.png
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2024
    ButterBalls likes this.
  9. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    18,784
    Likes Received:
    12,572
    Trophy Points:
    113
    DOJ suddenly doesn't believe what the FBI's longtime paid informant Smirnov (name hidden until now) said about the Bidens illicit ties to corrupt Burisma...
    but
    they do believe what he said about supposedly having Russian intelligence contacts? And then Wray and Brady lied to Congress saying how this no name informant is so valuable, reliable, trusted after 15 years...It's all so politically convenient, isn't it?

    Can you explain why this FBI informant was paid using tax payer money to break the law?
    upload_2024-2-22_7-6-30.png
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  10. Hey Now

    Hey Now Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    18,018
    Likes Received:
    14,435
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sorry, but you lose.
     
    Quantum Nerd likes this.
  11. Quantum Nerd

    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2014
    Messages:
    18,156
    Likes Received:
    23,656
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LOL! Great video.

    BTW: Is Hannity trying to become more and more of a Trump lookalike by overusing the orange spray tan?
     
    Hey Now likes this.
  12. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2013
    Messages:
    22,642
    Likes Received:
    6,183
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They were safe when Trump was president. Once people here voted for Joe, putin invaded and Ukrainians died. Its too bad people picked joe over Ukrainian lives.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  13. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2013
    Messages:
    22,642
    Likes Received:
    6,183
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump kept Ukraine safe. When Joe became president, putin decided to invade and Ukrainians are dying. Why did Joe not do what Trump was able to do, and protect ukraine from a russian invasion?

    Why didnt joe protect Israel like Trump did?

    A vote for joe had seriously deadly consequences.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  14. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    18,784
    Likes Received:
    12,572
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You lose... You keep misrepresenting this CHS as Comer's when it has been the FBI's CHS
    Comer has uncovered a boat load that never touches the FBI's Russian agent that was never verified he was a Russian agent by the FBI and then Wray and Brady illegally lied to Congress about his credibilty... and the very Burisma executive that the FBI's own FD-1023 is referring to has disappeared.
    Comer never needed his testimony as he has much more for the FBI to be looking into the Biden family shady deals...
    What did Joe Biden know and when did he know it?... Where are the DOJ investigations? Democrats are making claims they can't back up.
    Why are the Democrats so scared of an inquiry into Joe Biden and his family's corruption to get to this evidence they seek? The House will follow the facts to where they lead... This committee is trying to get to the truth about what the president knew and when he knew it about shady deals his family was participating in and whether our National Security was put at risk.

    All here…. Prove Comer wrong….
    Here is four pages worth of evidence of corruption... What did Joe know and when did he know it... PROVE ANY OF IT WRONG...
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Bank-Memorandum-5.10.23.pdf
    https://oversight.house.gov/release...the-bidens-from-russia-kazakhstan-and-ukraine /
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Fourth-Bank-Records-Memo.pdf
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Redacted-doc.pdf
    https://oversight.house.gov/landing/biden-family-investigation/

    boat load of stuff categorized...
    Key Evidence:

    An interactive timeline of the Biden’s pay for play schemes
    https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/

    Oversight Committee report revealing the Bidens’ dealings with foreign countries.
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-cont...promised-The-Biden-Family-Investigation-1.pdf

    Biden Bank Records Memorandum showing the family created over 20 shell companies
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Bank-Memorandum-5.10.23.pdf

    Key Findings from the IRS Whistleblowers
    https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-c...ans-Fact-Sheet-on-Whistleblower-Testimony.pdf

    Whistleblowers’ transcripts press release and links
    https://waysandmeans.house.gov/smit...atment-for-wealthy-and-politically-connected/

    Follow-up letters seeking more transcribed interviews in the wake of the IRS whistleblowers’ explosive testimony
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-jordan-smith-seek-over-a-dozen-transcribed-interviews-related-to-agency-misconduct-in-hunter-biden-investigation/

    FBI Form 1023 alleging then-Vice President Joe Biden engaged in a bribery and extortion scheme and ultimately received $5 million from a Burisma executive.
    https://twitter.com/GOPoversight/status/1682067528242151427

    Comer Releases Third Bank Memo Detailing Payments to the Bidens from Russia, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Third-Bank-Records-Memorandum_Redacted.pdf

    Sixteen Times Joe Biden Lied About His Family’s Business Schemes
    https://oversight.house.gov/blog/jo...-15-times-about-his-familys-business-schemes/

    Twenty-Two Examples of Joe Biden’s Involvement in His Family’s Influence Peddling Schemes
    https://oversight.house.gov/blog/ev...nt-in-his-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/

    Comer Reveals $200,000 Payment to Joe Biden the Same Day James Biden Received $200,000 from Americore
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-releases-evidence-of-direct-payment-to-joe-biden/

    Comer Reveals How Joe Biden Received Laundered China Money
    https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-how-joe-biden-received-laundered-china-money/
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2024
    ButterBalls likes this.
  15. Shutcie

    Shutcie Newly Registered Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2021
    Messages:
    1,493
    Likes Received:
    1,193
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    :applause:
     
  16. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    18,784
    Likes Received:
    12,572
    Trophy Points:
    113
    ButterBalls likes this.
  17. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    18,784
    Likes Received:
    12,572
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2024
    mngam and ButterBalls like this.
  18. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2015
    Messages:
    15,082
    Likes Received:
    5,519
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So, tell us. How did you KNOW with such certainty that Putin would have invaded if Biden won and how you KNOW he would not if Trump won. How? Feelings? Tea leaves?
     
  19. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,323
    Likes Received:
    17,414
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    FBI doesn't make policy, so their confidence or lack thereof has nothing to do with the impeachment, only Congress makes policy and they are the only relevant agent since we are talking about the validity of the impeachment effort and claims against Joe Biden and his son, and they were using Smirnoff as a centerpiece for the impeachment claims and claims against Joe being part of a non existent bribery scheme. .

    You lose, and here is proof:

     
  20. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2018
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    15,451
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    DEFLECTION
    Unfortunately for you and your continuing deflections, (because you don't have anything else) I never made ANY claim about the FBI making policy, and neither did anyone else.

    I provided the TESTIMONY UNDER OATH of FBI Director Christopher Wray who vouched for Alexander Smirnov, telling lawmakers his name shouldn’t be disclosed because he had been “invaluable” to law enforcement and was so “trusted and credible” the U.S. government had paid him hundreds of thousands of dollars for his information.

    But it does show your desperation because you can't dispute Wrays testimony.

     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2024
    ButterBalls likes this.
  21. Bullseye

    Bullseye Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2021
    Messages:
    12,431
    Likes Received:
    10,743
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You still haven't explained how encouraging NATO to increase defense spending comprising being a Putin pawn. Seems like Biden's initial "it's only a minor incursion" would be more pawn-like.
     
    mngam likes this.
  22. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2013
    Messages:
    22,642
    Likes Received:
    6,183
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Because Trump was in power 4 years, nothing. Biden wins, Putin invades. It's pretty simple, votes for Biden have caused Ukrainian lives.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.
  23. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    32,323
    Likes Received:
    17,414
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Specious logic. You can't base foreign policy and it's complex dynamics of strategic interests for America and her allies on personal anecdote.
    Horse manure.

    For your edification:

    The United States Department of State recognizes the critical value of preserving Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity within its internationally recognized borders, including Crimea and extending to its territorial waters, in the face of ongoing Russian aggression. This commitment is unwavering and underscores the importance of Ukraine as a key regional strategic partner. The U.S.-Ukraine relationship serves as a cornerstone for security, democracy, and human rights in Ukraine and the broader region.

    https://www.state.gov/u-s-ukraine-charter-on-strategic-partnership/
    https://www.state.gov/united-with-ukraine/

    Foreign Policy Advisors (POLADs) play an integral role in building and maintaining these relationships. They bridge the gap between diplomacy and defense, ensuring that foreign policy is integrated into defense policy planning. During Russia’s threat to Ukraine and Europe, POLADs worked closely with U.S. Embassies and experts to facilitate security partnerships and negotiations, which allowed for the rapid deployment of U.S. military forces to Poland and the rallying of NATO Allies to deter further Russian aggression. Their highly networked institutions were instrumental in achieving this strategic response.

    https://www.state.gov/dipnote-u-s-d...reign-policy-advisors-for-their-work-in-2022/

    Furthermore, the U.S. Department of State has notified Congress of its intent to make additional long-term investments with Foreign Military Financing (FMF) to bolster Ukraine’s security and that of 13 regional partners and allies in Europe who are at risk from potential future Russian aggression.

    https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-ukraine/

    This commitment reflects the recognition of Ukraine’s strategic value and the need to support its sovereignty against external threats.

    The point being, those qualified and in the know vehemently disagree with you. I sure as hell am not taking your word for it, so if you have a compelling argument to make, then make it, because what you've provided thus far suffers in scholarship, which the subject clearly demands.

    Republicans in the house are pawns for Putin. At least the Senate is wise. Heck, even that extreme conservative Mark Levin understands the value of Ukraine in the scheme of things, not to mention the National Review. The strategic value in preserving the sovereignty of Ukraine is immense, and the cost of doing it is negligible, some 5.6% of our military budget to accomplish it. To not do so is a strategic error and you have been misled.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/aid-to-ukraine-is-a-fraction-of-the-u-s-defense-budget/
     
    9royhobbs likes this.
  24. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2015
    Messages:
    15,082
    Likes Received:
    5,519
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Congratulations, you didn't answer the question. I'm shocked.
     
  25. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2013
    Messages:
    22,642
    Likes Received:
    6,183
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You seem to not understand the difference between not answering a question, and not getting an answer you like. I'm shocked.
     
    mngam and ButterBalls like this.

Share This Page