Comer et al. are Putin Pawns.

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    So it turns out Smirnoff is a Russian agent feeding disinformation to the FBI, who refused to turn over FD-1023's to Congress because the sensitive info (against Bidens) wasn't vetted.

    Can you understand why the FBI wouldn't want to turn over unverified detrimental info on a US President to Comer & Co, who have been relentlessly impugning the integrity of Joe Biden in every Fox interview?

    Well, Comer & Co subpoenaed the FBI so they were forced to turn it over and lo, Comer et al continued with their slander of Joe Biden based on that info at every chance they had.

    But, now that we know the Smirnoff, the source of the FD 1023 has ties to Russian intelligence, we can safely hold the opinion that Comer et al, and his band of clowns, are patsies for Putin.

    And for those of you on the right trying to shift the blame to the FBI, they were the ones trying to keep the info from getting to Congress, where it could be leaked and potential damage to innocent persons (Joe Biden) could result, which it did, once congress subpoenaed the doc. It was Comer et al that did the smear campaign, not the FBI. they get FD 1023's all the time, they are just dictations by people reporting to have information that allegedly the FBI could use in their investigations, they were just trying to make sense of it all, they weren't going around 'touting' like Comer et al. were doing.

    Out of fairness, I asked ChatGPT to rewrite my above argument with more accuracy, and, as Chat always does, tries to do so in the least biased way as possible, and here is the result, which basically says the same thing, but in a more diplomatic fashion:


    It has been suggested that an individual referred to as 'Smirnoff,' allegedly having connections with Russian intelligence, provided information to the FBI. This information, documented in forms known as FD-1023s, reportedly contained unverified claims concerning the Bidens. The FBI, adhering to protocol for handling unverified or potentially sensitive information, initially hesitated to release these documents to Congress, particularly to figures who have been vocal critics of Joe Biden, citing concerns about the dissemination of unverified material that could unfairly impact individuals' reputations.

    Subsequently, through subpoenas, certain members of Congress, including Representative Comer, obtained these documents. These actions have sparked debate over the handling and dissemination of unverified information and the potential for such information to be used in political attacks. Critics argue that the reliance on information with unverified ties to foreign intelligence could compromise the integrity of political discourse and may serve foreign interests.

    The contention that the FBI sought to withhold the documents to prevent potential harm or political misuse aligns with standard practices of caution when dealing with unverified intelligence. It's important to consider the broader implications of disseminating unverified information and the responsibilities of governmental and intelligence agencies in balancing transparency with security and integrity.


    Fine, I still prefer my version, says basically the same thing, that Comer & Repubs have been Putin pawns.


    US Says Former FBI Informant Had Ties to Russia Intelligence

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...bi-informant-had-ties-to-russian-intelligence

    No paywall:
    https://news.yahoo.com/us-says-former-fbi-informant-161415053.html

    (Bloomberg) -- An informant charged with lying to the FBI about Hunter Biden and his father’s ties to Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings had numerous contacts with Russian intelligence operatives, US prosecutors wrote in a court filing.

    Alexander Smirnov could use his “extensive foreign ties,” including those to Russian intelligence agencies to “resettle outside of the United States,” prosecutors wrote Tuesday in a federal court filing in Nevada, in pushing for him to be detained. Smirnov was in frequent contact with a Russian government official who manages two groups of individuals who are tasked with carrying out assassinations overseas, according to the filing.

    Smirnov was charged with falsely claiming to the Federal Bureau of Investigation in 2020 that President Joe Biden and his son each accepted $5 million in bribes from Burisma. The government looked into those claims, but then closed its investigation in August.
    In its 28-page filing, the government outlined what it described as Smirnov’s extensive and recent contacts with high-ranking Russian officials and detailed how he allegedly pushed false information to FBI investigators about individuals identified in the filing as “Public Official 1” and “Businessperson 1.” While the government didn’t name the individuals, they match the description of the president and his son.

    Smirnov allegedly pushed investigators to look into whether “Businessperson 1” had been recorded at the Premier Palace Hotel in Kyiv and claimed that the individual went to the hotel many times, according to the filing. He told the FBI that Russian intelligence intercepted several phone calls placed by prominent US guests at the hotel that may be used as “kompromat” in the 2024 election, according to the government. But investigators determined the information was false because “Businessperson 1” never traveled to Ukraine, according to the filing.

     
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    Right. And Putin invaded Ukraine once Biden won and now people are dying.

    Whos the pawn again?
     
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    Russia, Russia, Russia…… here we go again.

    And this was a FBI informant Russian agent… let that sink in…. And Wray and Brad lied to Congress as this FBI Russian agent is credible and reliable and Smirnov has been a Russian agent and a FBI informant for 15 years.
     
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    Funny how Russia got drug into this...lol
     
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    Just because Comer's star witness has admitted to being a Russian mole who was passing along info from Russian spies doesn't mean the Republicans are willingly doing Russia's work for them.

    Oh wait, it does.

    Needless to say, the conservatives will all defend that.

    None of the Trump cultists here show even the slightest contrition after getting busted for spending months proudly repeating Russia lies. That tells you all you need to know about their loyalties. The Trump cult is loyal to Trump first, Russia second, and the USA last.
     
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    That's my takeaway as well, unfortunately. At least to the extent The Following and the Repub congressional caucus will not miss a beat in their continued, baseless accusations about Joe. Because facts are not necessary to keep the narrative alive.......they never were.
     
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    Double standards 101..
    How is it that FBI charges Alexander Smirnov with lying to the FBI.... Christopher Steele was a legit Russian asset spreading lies about Trump in a fake “dossier” to highest echelons of DOJ and news media WHILE working as an FBI informant and the Dem Party?
     
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    AGAIN another right-wing scandals falls flat on its face. Right there with Hillary's email, with voting machines "flipping" votes, with The Big Lie, .. too many to mention. I'm sure they're used to it.

    A rational person would think that they would stop believing the sources of these "conspiracy theories": Fox, Breitbart, Tucker, Alex Jones, ... But no... They will eagerly swallow, line hook and sinker, the next fake conspiracy that they feed to them.

    There is fertile ground for Putin's propaganda machine on the right, that doesn't exist anywhere else.
     
  9. Patricio Da Silva

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    Where and when did Wray say Smirnoff was credible?

    Sorry It's on the Comer clown car

    Not the FBI

    PROOF

    https://youtube.com/shorts/eQ9mwX_ZnfE
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Quit deflecting

    Doesn't the negate the following which is the fact the wheels are coming off the Comer clown car

    https://youtube.com/shorts/eQ9mwX_ZnfE
     
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    But what do you care? You don't want to send money to Ukraine anyway.

    Right?
     
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    Its curious to me.
    Clinton/DNC hired a foreign agent to gather russian intelligence and create the lie that trump conspired with russia to steal hillaries throne.

    Turns out that was all lies, but no matter, the FBI/DOJ used those lies to spy on trump, both on the campaign and in the whitehouse.

    Then congress starts investigating the biden crime cabal and makes the FBI give up their informant, who, it turns out, probably lied as well.

    The trump/russian thingy still persists despite all the evidence proving it to be lies. Clinton and the DNC remain unpunished.

    If liberals have their way biden will be given a pass and the conservatives skewered for daring to investigate at all.

    What a democrat does is politics.
    What a republican does is criminal.
     
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    Putin 2: Ukrainian Boogaloo
     
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    Ask Raskins
    This is the FBI's lying Russian agent CHS of 15 years... not Comer's... the Wray and Brad said Smirnov was reliable and dependable and paid mucho dinero with tax payer money.... I find it so laughable we are going to relive the fake Russiagate again... Wray and Brad need to be removed and fired for lying to Congress..

    https://twitter.com/GOPoversight/status/1758590811678167198

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    I thought that was Prison Mike there for a second.
     
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    Once again you do not bring to the table any proof what so ever. Please prove to us this CHS was Comer's and not the FBI's.

    Your Proof is not proof at all... only in your mind..... IT IS NOT COMER'S CHS.... IT IS THE FBI'S

    Your "PROOF" is the repeated lie that the Russia agent and Smirnov that the corrupt FBI said about their own CHS...

    You are confused who's CHS this is..
    Why has Wray not been arrested and indicted for lying to Congress....
    Where is the DOJ investigation into this?
    This is a "declassified" FBI FD-1023.... this is a FBI highly revered and credible CHS.... with a FBI informant.....while the FBI was has sat on this document for several years.... then the FBI claimed never existed..... and then the FBI claimed it was so sensitive it could only be seen in a SCIF while the FBI has apparently leaked classified information to the news media....
    So where are the FBI investigation of the FBI document that "requires verification." came up with after sitting on it for years and Grassley/Comer uncovering to the public? It is not Comer's CHS, it is the FBI's..... how many other lies has this credible and reliable CHS told that wrecked other cases..

    https://www.justice.gov/sco-weiss/media/1338741/dl?inline=
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    Well he did go through cancer treatment... so he deserves a pass for the head gear.... no excuse for his stupidity though..
     
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    So this post is a product of Artificial Ignorance?
     
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    Virtue signalers don't get a pass.
     
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    You know you hit the nail on the head when the first reply is:

     
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    Irrelevant
     
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    No, facts are irrelevant to them. Smoke and mirrors and spin that fits a pre conceived narrative is what matters to them.

    If they have to rely on a lying "informants info so they can trash or get even with Biden....... so be it. Integrity is not their strong suit.
     
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