The Diversity Experiment Has Failed Spectacularly...Bring Back The BEST QUALIFIED People!!

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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Well that was the old definition of racism. It has been redefined now because racists were trying to reverse the original meaning. Racism is about power and actually always has been anyway.
     
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    But that means we are all minorities since all the power belongs to the politicians the Bureaucrats and billionaires meaning under that definition skin color has nothing to do with race.
     
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    Yeah, I'll have to disagree with Esau on this one. Racism is a negative bias against a race. I had a relative (who passed) who thought Koreans were incompetent and could not be trusted in his field. I would call that racist.

    MAGA: n. A sad and peculiar form of endarkenment in which one must jam one's head so far up one's back side that neither the light of reason, the light of day or simple common sense and logic can drag one anywhere close to reality.
     
  4. Esau

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    That's where nepotism comes in.
    That kept us kept within the "white family"
     
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    What does that even mean? Are you suggesting that you can only be truly black of you live in Africa? I ask because that's what it sounds like.
     
  6. Esau

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    If one takes the route of nepotism then one eventually comes to be racist. It's a natural evolution and that is what the west becomes without forced diversity. It's pretty obvious bro, can you not see this?
     
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    Utter nonsense. Then explain to me the city of mixed race couples and politicians in Minnesota in the 1880's. Explain to me how a black woman became rich in the 1920's and another Black woman became a real estate tycoon in 1870 California? There are now and always have been black people who managed to succeed no matter how the deck was stacked against them. The Tuskegee airmen all had college degrees, in spite of the KKK and Jim Crow. The biggest problem African Americans have to day isn't racism it is the destruction of the African American family and the whole sale Murder of black people by other black people. AS horrible as the KKK was they only managed to lynch some 4800 black people and it took the damn near 80years to do it. In the last ten years in Chicago alone more than 5000 black folks have been murdered by other black people yet according to BLM and other leftist idiots the problem isn't the gang bangers doing the killing it's the cops trying desperately to put an end to the carnage that are the problem,
     
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    What a lot of complete nonsense, totally irrelevant points and truly awful grammar.

    Never again, as the famous black saying goes (with regards to my responding to you in future )
     
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    The Truth sir is the truth. Your unwillingness or inability to deal with it is sadly your problem and I can't help you with your willful blindness.
     
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    I came here to discuss the topic of diversity, not to be subjected to an ignorant racist tirade totally off topic
     
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    Nothing racist about I think black people are more than good enough to succeed any where or any time no matter the road blocks place in their path. The people hurt the most in the burning of Atlanta were freed black business men and women who lost their livelihoods and often their lives as well trying to fight the flames. Skin ain't nothing but wrapping paper. It doesn't matter a damn. It is, as any kid over five will tell you, the gift inside that counts not the wrapping paper. I have known black brown white and yellow people in my life I'd cheerful take with me to watch my six in a combat zone. I have also known black brown white and yellow people that I wouldn't want on my six walking down the street. It isn't the skin it is the character that makes the difference.
     
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    So you wouldnt give a war veteran with one arm an office job typing because he is disabled, even though he really wanted the job?
     
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    If he demonstrates the ability to do the job satisfactorily and he would be subject to the same test regime as everyone. else sure. If you cannot do the job then you cannot do the job the reasons why are utterly irrelevant. I'd love to be an astronomer but I have neither training nor the skill set necessary to do it. How much I want the job is utterly irrelevant to whether or not I am qualified. If a man or a woman thinks 2+2=6 I'm not hiring that person to design bridges no matter what the color his/her skin happens to be. Note If you type 130 words a minute but what you are typing gibberish you don't get the job no matter how many hands you have.
     
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    But he is going to be slower than an equally passionate two handed typist.


    Do you kick him to the curb for the sake of profit?
     
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    If racism is about power and then white supremacy is not something to worry about. We gave a lot of power and a lot of privilege to black people.

    It's time for that to stop.
     
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    Yep. Profit benefits us all. Not just the boss and the stock holders but I would also because he is a veteran who lost a limb in the fight find something where his lack of an arm might benefit him and the company. One of oldest rubricks in sports is that you try to place people in positions where they can succeed. Any good manager should try to do the same. It may not be what he wants to do right now but it may well prove to be what he is actually best at
     
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    But he is passionate about typing! He wants to tell the world his story but you are going to deny him because it will hit your profit margins.

    That's the problem with capitalism, profits over EVERYTHING/

    A good manager builds an ethical team first and foremost, results come second. That's my understanding as a professional football coach, of Brazilian teachings.

    Playing someone in a position they don't like will push them away and they'll go back to being a cripple.
     
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    if he is a writer and the manuscript and story is good then the number of hands he has is irrelevant and I am neither hiring or firing him I and purchasing publishing rights to his manuscript and the contract I extend to him will reward him well for his work. And the only one hurt if anyone by his slower production is himself.
     
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    He's a one armed journalist that wants to share his perspective but he types twice as slow as every other typist, thus his work takes twice as long to print, therefore you will have to pay him twice as much (hourly rate) for the same amount of content. Do you hire or fire?
     
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    Again that's not a secretary and given today's computer He can dictate his story into his computer without ever making a key stroke and much faster than anyone can type.
     
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    But his veteran brother has one leg and would love to be a postman, since all his family were. Would you employ him even if it meant less profit for you?
     
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    If he cannot do the job he cannot do the job why is irrelevant.
     
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    Of course he can do the job, it's just takes him twice as long. Would you still employ him?
     
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    Nope because part of doing the job requires that it be done in an acceptable time frame. If it takes you twice as long to do the job as some one else why should I hire you over some one else? By The way why are you comparing severe physical handicaps to being African-American? Seems a bit racist to me. Now let's change the question a bit I'm in my 7th decade I'm 5'9" but I really want to play center on an NBA team would you hire me for that job?
     
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