Tea Partiers and their supporters won the day back with the 2010 elections. So elections have consequences and for the Tea Partiers to compromise with a bunch of losers and with a losing ideology wouldn't make much sense...now would it? You see, it was those losers back in 2010 that were destroying America; Tea Partiers came to the rescue to save America from further socialism.
LibHater wrote: So we Conservatives do not want government to sanction abortion (murder), or to sanction any kind of social degrading of our culture so as to accommodate a multicultural, abnormal social liberal agenda. I don't see how our values can be misconstrued into believing we want government to control our lives. C"Constitutional" conservative!?!?! Doesn't your Constitution say: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, What is this "abnormal social liberal agenda" this clown thinks a government has power to make laws over? That is hypocrisy - writ loud and clear.
America was in "danger" from socialism?!?! Why do you want to inhibit free speech? Aren't you a conservative? That is very hypocritical isn't it?
I explained all of this the other day right here...... http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...mosexuality-should-illegal-8.html#post4419196 I think you'll find that it's the left that is the most hypocritical about demanding that the government not meddle in their personal lives while simultaneously trying to control everyone else.
What I said doesn't prove your point. It discredits it. That is to say: it does what it was supposed to do.
Both sides like government intrusion, it's a matter of degree. Conservatives like government intrusion in a few personal areas. Liberals want government intrusion everywhere else.
It can equally be argued that you don't get it because you believe in an arbitrary distinction concerning rights. That's the trouble with mistaking a philosophical concept for an objective fact.
No it isn't. By your standard, the Government should have no ability to outlaw murder, as this can also be construed as a "religious" tenet. If you argue otherwise, you're just arguing tenets of your own religion, making you the hypocrite.
You can argue that all you want but it'll just be your opinion. Like my opinion someone thinks people are being hypocrites because they don't understand the differecet between positive rights and negative rights.
A conservative's definition of "Positive Rights": "I GET to do ANYTHING I want to!" A conservative's definition of "Negative Rights": "YOU CAN'T do ANYTHING I don't like!"
Yeah, I get it. You've never taken a philosophy lesson. Just say you want to create your own stereotypical fantasy land. That way no one will be as annoyed with you.
Marriage, in relation to the govt, is a social contract. Contracts are regulated. Homosexuals have always been permitted to enter into contracts the same as anyone else. It does not need to be anyone else's business. Homosexuals insist on making their sexual proclivities everyone's business. I have no recollection of any particular kind of sexual practice being mentioned in either a state or church marriage contract. Governments everywhere have laws against murder. Abortion is murder. That should not have been hard to deduce.
Although I completely agree with you on the aspect of marriage, because I am only a conservatives on *economic principles*, everything else, I'm independent. I believe if two people want marriage, they gender shouldn't matter...after all, its a free country. However, I'd like to point out that the fact that republicans want to disallow abortions is actually a fallacy. They just want no funding for federal-funded abortion, because it is tax money.
You have just said you want the government out of YOUR life, but you want the government to meddle in other peoples lives. That's exactly the point I was making.
I am tired to say a thing: Marriage isn't a religious practice. Religion doesn't have the monopoly on marriage. DO you know a thing called civil marriage. At least in Spain, if you don't register your marriage in the civil courts, your marriage is not valid. You can be married by any Church, that it does not have its civil version it is not valid. And I am sure that it is the same in USA.
Well if you have the right to FORCE other people to not be sexual with whatever CONSENTING ADULT that they want, then I have the right to take what you have and distribute it to people who need it more than you. Sound fair? I sure as Hell think it does!!
We are being very general here, but while we are I might as well chip in I think most conservatives really want the government to leave their wallets alone, some are more outspoken about what should and shouldn't be legal but hey I can't really speak for everyone.
This is the most generalized and genuinely ignorant thing, ever think the problem might be the inter party mud slinging going on? Somebody never reas George Washington's farewell address. Let me know what you think of this; http://thedailycontroversial.blogspot.com/2011/09/american-party-ism.html
While sounding nice - your response really hasn't addressed my points. I claim that those two ideologies are incompatible. Prove me wrong.
It is a state issue. The federal government should not be involved in morals, charity or individuals personal wants or needs.