The Communist Party and Nazi Party endorse Occupy Wall Street.....

Conspiracy??? WTF???

They posted it...

The "Occupy Wall Street" protesters have listed 13 proposed demands from their website.

Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.

Quite a list of Marxist "demands", indeed. The real question here is if these demands are not met, then what?

 

Yeah, it lasted less than 2 yrs. That is a very poor argument to use that single incident to counter about a century of conflict between the 2 political identities. If there were other major incidents to cite, then feel free to continue the argument.

 

And the hilarity ensued...

 

Actually, the validity of that site has come into question as being a hoax.

I've been able to identify and provide a central message from OWS, through a neighbor who owns a UPS Store and is very hot about this thing.

"Eliminate the control of election process by corporations, unions and lobbyists, and give it back to We The People.
Stop politicians from giving money to Big Corps and Banks, when the people don't have basic needs such as health care, food etc..."

Many on the fringe Right insists OWS has no message or goals - or they quote all these demands that most people involved with this thing have never heard of - until they see it coming from someone on The Right.
I saw the same tactic with the Tea Party, being used by The Fringe Left.

Fringe Right & Left love to claim how different they are from each other, while acting exactly alike: Dodge, change the subject, insult, moral comparatives, bring up ancient history, project claims or opinions onto the opther side, Cut & Run. No difference between the fringe of Libs and Conservs in that reagrd.
The big difference I see is where the Tea Party hit it's peak some time ago, this thing is running like wildfire.

So to the Right Wing, I would pose three questions. Suppose the goal truly is to get corporations, unions and lobbyists out of control:

1. Do you support lobbyists, unions and corporations having greater influence over our government, than the will of the people?

2. Do you oppose the government (including Obama) giving money to Big Corps and Banks?

3. Do you deny that's the case now?

Frankly, I don't see this thing lasting or if it does, I see it becoming corrupt and wandering way of its' original goals like the Tea Party did.

 

Even if true, it is irrelevant. This does not conclude that Nazis, Communists, OWS and Pres Obama are colluding to steal everyone's possessions.

What you are suggesting is not even logistically possible. If I may make a suggestion, if you are going to come up with a conspiracy, start off small at first, say Pres Obama is only colluding with Communists to win reelection. After he wins the election, then you can bring in the Nazis.

 

Thats completely false.

Who do you think is going to pay for all that? Where do you think theyre gonna get the money to pay for all of that???

Quit playing games....

 

Longevity isn't what's in question here, mdrobster, it's the willingness of Nazis and Communists to enter into alliances of convenience when it suits their interests to do so, and the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact is a factual product of that willingness to enter into these alliances of convenience regardless of their ideological differences.

Like I said before, these alliances of convenience are hardly anything new, unique, surprising, mystifying...

 

Pay for what, what the devil are you talking about.

 

Okay, let's hear your conspiracy, what is the common goal here.

 

Those demands are ludicrous, except for the paper ballots in no. 10 which I agree with, and maybe no. 12 since I detest credit reporting agrencies. (No, I don't have bad credit, either; it's just they make too many mistakes and it can be impossible to have them rectified. Those agencies basically produce nothing.)

Please remember, though, that anyone can create a website that says anything, even an agent provocateur...

 

Look, Youre gonna have to read the thread to understand.

The "Occupy Wall Street" protesters have listed 13 proposed demands from their website.

Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all.

 

Nazi Party came from: Nationalsozialistischer Reichsbund für Leibesübungen (NSRL) or the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP).

The left wing academics and media have pushed for so very long to classify the Nazi's as "right wing", when in fact they came from Socialism and the Workers' Party. They are VERY left wing.

 

Youre preaching to the choir....

 

Yeah, yeah. Everyone just made it up. It's all a hoax. No one has been following Stephen Lerner for close to a year now as he organized this. Anonymous just made up their involvement with OWS. George Soros is a mythical figure to England, Asia and numerous other countries, and they just give their teams of lawyers make work projects regarding seeking convictions on him, and seeking legal options to have him restricted from manipulationg their nations...the conspiracy theorists "mystical" bogeyman.

The TEA Party hasn't wandered anywhere. Despite the attempts to "blend" (read as split, read as divide) the TEA Party with these liberal. communist, socialist, anarchist loons...it ain't gonna happen.

Come 2012, there will be a smack down similar, if not even worse, than 2010, as the whole OWS "ruin America" stink turns even more indys from the lunacy of the new radicalized leftists.

 

Caller, what is your point?

'Nazis', and Republicans both likely support animal rights.

So, by your rationale, this really means that the Republican Party have a suspicous common ground with 'Nazi's.

Lol - Are you laughing at yourself yet?

 

Excuse me but you have these conspiracies really stuck in your head, nobody is going to care about those line items.

 

Nice strawman...

lemme know when Republicans hold month long sit ins with nazis and communists over animal rights...

****

 

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

What do they use just now?

 

Yes, a strawman to illustrate a strawman, do you see?

It is called mirroring, often used to reflect defective logic back to the source.

 

They specifically demand an additional 2 trillion the government doesnt have...

In fact, Americas checking account is already over drawn by 15 trillion dollars.


Now post a link or maybe a fact or something, or ****

 

Its called bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

One is actually happening, and the other, You just pulled outta your ass.

 

"Conspiracy"?
I merely pointed out the fact that Nazis and Communists will enter into alliances of conveniences when it suits their interests (ex., Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact).

The Nazis and CPUSA have already articulated the goals they share with the OWS protesters, so I will leave it to you to interpret their remarks...

 

Well, Hitler and Stalin had a pact, but Hitler broke it.

But so what?

German Nazism and Communism have long since died or been pushed to the fringes. People on the fringes sometimes turn up at events that are likely to get them free publicity. It's a bit of a desperate non story, to be honest.

I think he likely tried really hard to trawl the net for this.

 

Well why don't you share "those common goals" with me, that you know so much about.