Ron Paul: Obama Presidency On The Verge Of Being A "Dictatorship"

No kidding. I said this a while back and the lefties scoffed at it.
Obama has openly said he intends to go around Congress to get what he wants. This man IS acting like a dictator. He's ABUSING the power of his office.

He's a tyrant.

 

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I hated Bush. In my eyes he's been the least effective most backwards president in decades. However, just because I didn't like him doesn't make him a dictator. Just because you don't like Obama's ideals doesn't mean he's a dictator. He's presented absolutely none of the requirements for being a dictator. He's voted in. He normally actually works a LOT with the other side (despite what they say). Blablabla...

 

Ok.
If Obama is a dicator I wonder what real dictators would be called.

 

Prolly Commies....

 

What other side?

 

The dark side of force.

 

Obama is even worse than Bush, at least Bush didn't claim the right to kill an American anywhere on earth without a trial.

 

Shooting the messenger isn't going to make your point. Is there any thing to this or is it rhetoric? You are the one that appears illogical and emotional...

Its Ron Paul making the claims. Obama has been using Executive Orders to go around Congress, that's not rhetoric, that's reality. Whether or not its dictatorial would be a matter of opinion. I does give the impression of abuse of power though.

 

I have to agree with Ron Paul and the OP on this one. Killing an American without a trial is against the constitution. You know that pesky piece of paper Obama swore to uphold the day he became president?

Dictators generally ignore rule of law because they make the laws, and this action was dictatorish. Our presidents have continued to get more and more powerful and out of control. Anyone who thinks Obama is better then Bush ignores reality and has severe partisanship problems.

 

Every recent President has used executive orders to go around congress. And Obama has if anything held back like when he didn't use the loophole to end that whole budget crisis thing.
And it's not a matter of opinion if it's a dictatorship. Dictatorship has a very defined definition. Saying it's an opinion matter is like saying 2+2=banana peel.

 

I feel so much better now!

 

every president that gets into office is always worse than the previous one.Been that way since nov 22nd 1963 the last REAL president we had who served the people instead of the establishment.we are in a dictatership now people just dont realise it and every president that gets in from here on out will be worse than the previous one.

 

Best post on this thread yet.

 

What are you smoking? Obama doesn't even work with his own side; he waits until they (the congress or senate dems) produce a partisan bill--then he goes to the teleprompter to tell the nation how he plans on passing said bill. How did he work with the Repubs when he passed the healthscare bill? He didn't, he used sneaky back room deals like the cornhusker kickback to get the bill passed against the will of the majority of Americans. Senate dems led by dirty harry reid have rejected or haven't even read the 20+ jobs bills offered by the Repubs, yet that didn't stop obama from deceiving the American people by telling them the Repubs have no jobs plans and they don't want to see his new porkulus plan for jobs passed. Everyone knows the his jobs plan is just another stimulus/porkulus boondoggle.

 

Yes, and today he let a federal agency enact a law to tax Christmas Tree venders. Between agencies and executive orders passing laws...we are basically living in a dictatorship. Guess any federal agency can now pass laws and congress is just a figurehead.

 

Paul is right on this one, Trin. Good posting!


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What was it about Bush you hated most... 4.7% unemp, tax rebate checks or $4 prescriptions?

Here's a newsflash -- Obama hardly WORKS at all, much less a LOT... at anything. Check the President's Daily Schedule thread sometime. His official WH calendar is proof he's lazy.

Like most dictators.

He thinks he's 'above' the daily grind. He has 'people' who do that stuff for him... and tell him what he needs to know.

Like most dictators.

Ron Paul's right... the only things holding Barack Obama back from assuming the role of dictator are technicalities... like term limits and that obstructive Republican congress.

Thank God and our Founding Fathers for technicalities.

 

Well, they're right about one thing... all presidents passed a lotta EOs because they could. Nothing all that serious though, because they can and often are rescinded by the next president. Obama does indeed appear to be intent on ABUSING the system, though. He basically came right out and told us so!

Here's what I don't understand about the EO he signed today... cutting the budgets of federal agencies for 'frills' like coffee mugs and awards -- 'swag' I think he called it.

OK, so is that something congress would've refused to pass?

No, of course it's not. But if it had been sent to congress, it would've been a line-item 'carrot' in a 2,000 page, $750 billion spending bill.

Sometimes the whole system is disgusting. Ron Paul's right about that, too.

 

Thats a monarch, not a dictator.

 

This thread shouldn't be that hard to understand, ModerateG, but apparenly, you have misunderstood it. President Barack Obama is not being called a dictator because people don't like his policies but because of the way he is implimenting them by circumventing Congress. The presidency is part of the executive branch and is supposed to execute the policies formulated by Congress, which is the legislative branch. When a president makes a point of acting in a legislative capacity without the approval of Congress, he is acting in a dictatorial manner.

I hope this clears up a concept you obviously didn't understand.

 

My all time favorite Obama dictatorial move is forcing amnesty for illegal immigrants in spite of congress and an overwhelming objection from the majority of American citizens.

 

Go live under a dictatorship, and you will realize how absurdly idiotic that comment is!! In dictatorships, they tend to monitor the internet, and your criticism of Obama on this forum could lead to your arrest and imprisonment. Thankfully we live in a country where that WON'T happen. Is it inappropriate to use executive order very often, I believe so. Does that equate to this being a dictatorship, quite obviously not!! I really do mean QUITE OBVIOUSLY!!

 

There is no noticable difference between the 2. Anyone who thinks otherwise ignores reality, and ACTUALLY has severe partisanship problems.

 

The CIA, FBI, NSA, Homeland Security, KGB, MI6, Mossad, and Bilderberg private security are all monitoring the Internet.