Jews have a Human Right to Separate Themselves from Arab Neighbors

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  1. SiliconMagician

    SiliconMagician Banned

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    Its disdain, and secondly here is my exact quote:

    Notice that ethnic cleansing is in quotes. Why don't you cut the crap and admit that the term "ethnic cleansing" is used extremely broadly by the anti-israel crowd around here.

    An arab gets evicted by his Jewish landlord for non-payment of rent and it qualifies as "ethnic cleansing" to them.

    Nothing the Israelis do qualifies as ethnic cleansing except in the twisted minds of scumbucket Jew-haters.

    Hate Israel, you hate Jews. They are intertwined and irrevocably linked as a people, as an idea, as a nation.

    Hate Israel, you hate Jews as a People, because you are advocating for the destruction of the very reason for their ultimate existential existence. The creation of a safe, prosperous and peaceful homeland for Judaism.
     
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    100% pure deflection. I presume you have a small amount of shame about what you posted in your distainful OP.
     
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    Up is down, black is white, the Jews in Israel are oppressed, and ethnic cleansing is a human right...I'm expecting bizarro Superman to walk backwards into the room and say "goodbye" any minute now...
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is bull crap. Israel or the US doesn't have to allow illegals to come in and work unless we want to. No one has the right to just go into another country and do anything unless invited.

    Israel does have a duty to allow the Arabs that stayed when they became a country, they are Israeli citizens. They have no obligation to keep those who are not citizens.
     
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    It's actually like he went through the brain re-processing as described in 1984. How many fingers are there? 5!
     
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    Is there any reason why the mods allow this topic to exist?

    The OP has 'ethnic cleansing' in his first sentance and his views go down hill from there.
     
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    What about the Palestinians in the occupied territories of Gaza and the West Bank? Does Israel have a "human right to ethnically cleanse" them off their land by refusing to allow them building materials and permits to maintain their houses, bulldozing homes that are condemned, and then, once enough of a neighborhood has collapsed, allowing Jewish settlers to take over and form a new Jewish settlement where the Palestinian neighborhood once was?
     
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    It's not a bad thing to let the true face of Zionism show.
     
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    That's not a human right.
     
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    Don't worry, just whip out your Holocau$t™ Card and you will be able to guilt trip people into anything.


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    I believe this will no longer be an issue if we simply recognize another State in historic Palestine.
     
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    If Silicon was running for office his approval rating among the evangelicals would sky rocket.
     
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    If Silicon was running for office his approval rating among the wack-jobs would sky rocket.
     
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    Israel-Palestine will remain an issue so long as there is money to be made by fostering conflict...

    http://www.whoprofits.org/
     
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    Because he's a conservative.

    Mods will punish any liberal for the slightest offense, but this (*)(*)(*)(*) is okay.
     
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    I object to the income transfers to the specific welfare and not the general welfare, as specifically enumerated in our own supreme law of the land.
     
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    I concur. Our government has for too long been used as a tool to promote private interests to the detriment of the piblic good.
     
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    I have been against Israeli expansion in the West Bank for years. They have no right to keep building settlements there. If I were president, I would withhold any aid to Israel until she stops.

    I am against them preventing Palestinians from bringing in material to build homes in Gaza. But I agree with Israel that you can't let ships land in Gaza or have complete open borders there without inspection of what is being brought in. We know there are those Palestinians that still want to wipe Israel off the map and unless deliveries are monitored, they will try and do just that.
     
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    Not to quibble or anything; but, if we are really to commit the resources of the United States for any form of Jewishness, shouldn't Jews have their own State instead of claiming to be Israeli's?
     
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    I feel that the blockade of Gaza is a war crime as it amounts to a collective punishment of the civilian population. I don't believe Israel should have the right to keep Gaza disarmed any more than the Palestinians should have a right to keep Israel disarmed.

    Israel is one of the most well equipped military in the world. The display of disproportionate capabilities was quite evident in Operation Cast Lead.

    I know the situation is very complicated, but the conditions the civilian population of Gaza are forced to live in are unacceptable on a human rights scale. They live in an open prison police state where they are subject to random searches, denied the right to freely travel around their own territory, and are denied the basic resources to maintain their homes, schools, infrastructure, etc., all while Israel claims legitimacy of their actions as a means of national security.

    It's a self perpetuating corporate cash cow disguised as a national security issue.
     
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    Regardless to the legitimacy of their claims to the land after WWII, the Jewish people in Israel are there, have been there for generations, now, and it is unreasonable to expect them to go somewhere else. It is also unreasonable to expect the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank as well as in Israel proper to just pack up and leave and go to Jordan or Syria or Egypt, etc.

    The only realistic solution is a two state solution that is equitable in resource and geographic distribution.
     
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    Why is it so difficult to for the US to talk and vote, for "free", to create another stable market in our global economy, than continue our current and mediocre foreign policy decisions which have not worked since last millennium?
     
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    Because the real power in American politics exists beyond the scope of our elected officials to the moneyed interest that finance both parties and who select our candidates before any vote is ever cast, and because those interests are positioned to profit from expanded government spending as well as further spending on a foreign scale as a result of continued conflict.
     
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    Is anyone claiming that no private sector would benefit with another stable market in our global economy?

    Our federal Constitution only delegates the Power to Tax, to provide for the common defense and general welfare and to pay the debts of the United States.
     
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    As long as you have people determined to destroy Israel, she has the right to protect herself. If that means keeping weapons out that can do it, so be it. Ships should be alowed to dock, but everything coming off it should be inspected.



    She is also one of the smallest. Medium rockets can hit any of her cities. If she used much of the power she had, she would be condemned around the world. So even being well equipprd, she can't use much of it.

    I agree, they don't have the freedom they should have. Part of that reason is the continued attacks on Israel and always trying to smuggle weapons in.
    Things aren't going to change much unless Israel quits grabbing West Bank land and tries to make peace with the Palestinians. I don't know if peace is possible, but it never will be as long as Israel keeps taking more land away from the Pals.
     

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