Extinction.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Jack Napier, Mar 26, 2012.

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On hearing this type of news, I feel..

  1. Doesn't phase me. The world won't end due to it.

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  2. We should be doing more to protect animals from extinction

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  3. Depends on whether I have a personal likeness for it or not

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  4. It is serious, and I blame major corps and Gov for letting it happen

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  5. It is serious, but I blame someone else(who), for letting it happen

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  6. Animals have always become extinct, it is nothing new.

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  7. Other (state what)

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  1. Jack Napier

    Jack Napier Banned

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    I've included this here, as it is very much political, in every aspect, as I am sure anyone would agree.

    I want to ask a question as to how you feel about the extinction of a given species, be that a type of bird, primate, large cat, or whatever it may be.

    I wish to measure how important this is, if it is, and to what level.

    I have listed poll options, however, as always, I cannot cover all bases, so have included an 'other' option.

    Please give me a time to place poll up...

    Okay, so this is based on your learning that a given species is almost extinct..
     
  2. Jack Napier

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    I think it IS serious, and that more should be done.

    Did you know that even the extinction of say the simple bee would have a dramatic effect on many things, and eventually humanity?

    And that if more insects were effected, by environmental damage, it is more serious still, there are already several dangerous gaps in the food chain.

    For me, it is something that should in theory unite most, irrespective of other political differences.

    Jack
     
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    The only extinction that I am hoping for is the once-and-for-all demise of all of the slack jawed mouth breathing white racist rednecks on planet earth..
     
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    The environment is a pretty complex organization of living things and natural resources. Seems like a bad idea to go ripping pieces out of it.
     
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    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

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    Animals have always become extinct. But the main problem is the loss of habitat.

    Our resources must be managed in a way that benefits both man and beast.

    Such as catch limits, hunting seasons, slot limits, and keeping our National parks as natural as possible.
     
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    I don't know how to vote on this one. I don't want any species to become extinct due to human irresponsibility or caprice - especially my own. But I still take antibiotics knowing that bacteria are living entities too. Not much chance of those buggers becoming extinct though. They'll be here long after we kill each other off over all the stupid sh*t that we think is SO VERY important. Life is a strange phenomena.
     
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    Animals have always gone extinct, it is nothing new.

    Extinction only becomes an issue, in my opinion, when it has a significant effect on the human population. I'm mildly anthropocentric with regards to animal rights.
     
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    Extinction of a species might be sad, might not be sad....but nature is very resilient and has dealt with extinctions on a regular basis.

    It is not the end of the world and it will not cause horrible doom.

    We can be responsible...but frankly if we have to coddle something along and kill ourselves doing it---we probably ought to let nature takes its course.

    The one thing I won't stand for is human life in exchange to protect a species...which has happened in the case of firefighters having to go farther away for water during forest fires...which led to death.

    And the spotted owl needs to adapt or that's that.

    Ultimately human beings have a habitat too....destroying or putting ourselves in poverty to save a species won't work. We do need to be responsible and respect nature....certainly destroying the Bison like we did was an atrocity.
     
  9. Jack Napier

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    Didn't know that.

    Tell me more...
     
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    The loss of habitats and species is something all of us should worry about. The less educated always seem to forget how essential each piece of the system is and how reliant we are upon them. The earth will go on just fine regardless of what we do to it, whether we want the human species to continue to exist or not depends highly on how act.
     
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    If certain bees are endangered, that means they're not having much of an effect on the environment to begin with. I think you're engaging in alarmism.

    I agree that environmental damage is a serious problem. The US government (specifically the military industrial complex) pollutes the environment far more than any other entity in this country. So if we are going to do something about it, we certainly cannot turn to the very perpetrators and trust that they will be effective in assisting us.

    So the first logical step is taking action to STOP the continuing pollution. The public must be educated to vote for small government so it is less capable of damaging the environment further. There is only one Presidential candidate who supports making the federal government/military industrial complex smaller: Ron Paul. Ron Paul is the only candidate who cares about the environment.

    So electing Ron Paul and other like-minded members of Congress to massively slash the size of government is the first step to significantly STOPPING continuing damage to the environment. The next step is to gather like-minded individuals to raise awareness and money to research (through private firms) effective manners in combatting endangered species who are endangered becuase of the government's massive pollution...and how to reverse those effects.
     
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    It would depend on the species and the reason for extinction. I have mixed feelings on the idea of us bringing back a species that went extinct or was on its way to extinction for reasons not related to us. Kind of makes us responsible for any consequences of that tampering, and we will never know before hand what those consequences may be. Besides a species may become extinct but life which we are all apart of goes on.
     
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    In the late 1800's hunters went out and killed millions of Bison---for fun, for skins--in mass until they were almost extinct. They'd herd them up and just shoot them as they stood there.

    It was a very irresponsible act--The plains were full with millions and millions them and then there were none. Almost.
     
  14. Jack Napier

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    Well - that's patently not true, or you are confused.

    If mass pollution had a catastrophic effect on the bee population (already has), then this doesn't mean that they 'were not having an effect on the environement to begin with'.
     
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    Humans being extinct may not be so bad for the planet, as long as we did not take the rest of it with us.

    When is that bloody rapture starting then?

    :popcorn:
     
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    I see you give a pass to all the other racists.
     
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    North America was full of other animals that were hunted out before PETA arrived on the scene.
     
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    Sure. But the sudden drop in Bison population wasn't a normal....exinction. I can handle extinction when that species isn't cutting it in the world as it needs to. But the bloodlust of the buffalo hunter mob was irrresponsible.
     
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    So, no issue with black racists, then?

    Sounds like you're a racist, yourself.
     
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    Stop obsessing over race, man.
     
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    I'm pretty sure the human species is gonna go extinct if we don't stop this economic and militaristic tyranny that most national governments have.
     
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    What do you think hunting out means? Large animals were extinct from hunting in Central America before the Spaniards got there. One of the largest, besides the Jaguar which was revered was a dog.
     
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    After one story I read about today, I hope our demise there is a promise.
     
  25. Brewskier

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    I didn't bring it up.
     

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