Julian Assange seeks asylum in Ecuador...-tk3

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  1. Jason Bourne

    Jason Bourne Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not likely. Our economy is slowly strengthening. Consumer sales are up, housing sales are up and unemployment is declining.
     
  2. Serfin' USA

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    If you'll notice, most of our interventions now enlist the help of a lot of other nations. So yes, a lot of nations have similar foreign policy via UN initiatives. Australia is among them.
     
  3. Serfin' USA

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    ...and when that happens, other major powers will pick up the slack.

    China and Brazil are likely successors.
     
  4. daddyofall

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    China and Brazil are not US, so that's fine. Remember, US is the main target here.

    And i doubt US will concede all of its power to either Brazil or China. We'll end up having a similar situation with Cold War, a bipolarized world, well in this case, "tri" or "trepolarized". As US influence diminishes other countries will pick up, but not in the way to totally remove US's world influence. That's my opinion anyway, so good news to US haters, you're postcount won't suffer that much from US's weakening its position in the world.
     
  5. Serfin' USA

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    Pretty much. A multipolar world is better for balance in foreign policy anyway.
     
  6. Nosferax

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    Not really. Look at the world leading up to WW1.
     
  7. Serfin' USA

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    Touche... Then again, the world is a different place now in terms of trade and technology. The governments and populaces involved are different as well.
     
  8. philxx

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    Pause and think ,What australian Wars?We have never been to War for Australias defence EVER!

    Australia has never been invaded except by the US Military in WW2,and European Invasion in 1788, and with the stationing of 2500 Marines in Darwin in 2012-13.NEVER has a war except the class variety been fought on Australias soil ,no civil war No revolution ,NO Noything ,so as far as an Australian War never has happened ,fighting OTHER Nations wars well thats another question entirely ,we leave our WAR dead in Europe mainly and some in sth east asia and north Africa oh and south Africa as well ,dont want to forget the Boer War now would we.

    Australians don't defend Australia,why would they when other bigger powers like mother England and the USA ,already run and control the Giovernment.yep,australian foreign policy is determined in Washington not Canberra,bob Carr isn't smart enough to start with ,trusting Bob Carr with any political discission is tantamount to letting an arsonists into a firewiorks factory ,explosive in its stupidity!

    Bob Carr was a journalist\lawyer need more be said?????

    Stupid and corrupt!
     
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    But there are some similarity also. For instance, all the major powers are stuck in alliances and mutual aid treaties that could force them to enter a conflict they don't want, like Germany was with Austria and Russia was with the Balkan. And then, there is the general civil unrest happening all over the place, from the OWS to the Arab spring, and even in Canada with the "Red Square" student mass protest.

    The world today, like it was in 1914, is a giant opened powdered keg waiting for a single spark to ignite it.
     
  10. tok3z

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    All our wars have been american wars Jason... That's why the alliance is treason to the Australian people...
    America is an ally that takes but never gives...
     
  11. tok3z

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    China and Brazil are developing nations, not obese overdeveloped corpulent flaccid decaying empires like ameritardia and it's NATO allies in the eurozone, borrowing from each other to keep each other alive...
    They've got no reason for a foreign policy like yours, and more than a century of development before they could ever need one...
     
  12. tok3z

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    Lol... That's really funny... America is in decline and there's nothing you can do in your economy that will change that... Nothing...
    Carbon Trading could have saved your economy but not your foreign policy... Bush thought he knew better tho, so idgaf...
     
  13. Jason Bourne

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    You're confusing Europe with the US.

    Become enlightened...

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/27/2869994/oil-hovers-above-79-after-us-crude.html

    http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/world-stocks-slightly-us-home-sales-improve-16658119

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jun/26/oecd-us-economy-recovery?newsfeed=true

    Plenty more where that came from.
     
  14. Serfin' USA

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    If you loathe "overdeveloped" countries so much, I'm surprised you stay in Australia. They could easily fit the "overdeveloped" label, since it would seem to correspond with your country's high standard of living.

    We might "take" more than we "give" with our alliance, but you should be used to that by now. Both the U.S. and China dominate your country and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.
     
  15. tok3z

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    Overdeveloped is not a label that fits Australia... You're just too American to find out what overdeveloped or post-industrial means in economic terms before posting your reply...
    That's why we've got employment and growth, while you never will again...
    Economists ever since Adam Smith have been predicting the emergence of developing nations as consumer markets overtaking Europe and America... That's now happened...
    This is not a short term change, this is a return to normality... USA was the largest manufacturing nation for a short time in the 20th century... India and China were responsible for more than 50% of global GDP for over 2,000 years... America is a skyrocket economy...
     
  16. Serfin' USA

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    I have a degree in economics, so yes, I know what they mean. Again, your argument seems rather strange considering how much the rest of the world still depends on our consumption.

    You've got employment and growth because your government has done a better job of budgeting than ours has, and you get a lot of foreign investment. The U.S. alone makes up 27.4% of your total foreign investment.

    http://www.business.nsw.gov.au/inve...ign-direct-investment-in-australia-by-country
     
  17. tok3z

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    Lol... You've got a degree in economics and you post that unthought out crap..?
    It's nothing to do with managing economy better... Australia is a resource economy... America is a consumer economy with no credit to consume, with a supersaturated market of unemployed consumers...
    Your biggest markets are no longer internal, so you can't develop off your own consumption...

    Lol... Where'd you get that degree in economics..?
     
  18. tok3z

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    Btw nsw is the slowest growing state in the australian economy and the economic mismanagement here is legendary...
     
  19. tok3z

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    Maybe you missed the news that, according to Australian Treasury estimates anywayz, the developing world overtook the entire OECD as a consumer market on March 28 this year... It's not just China that overtook you and it's not just the USA who was overtaken...

    Lol... Dependant on your consumption..? Consumption of what..? The FTA btwn Australia and USA was next to useless, and contained 19 pages of exemptions including protections for American steel and agriculture...

    Even for China, less than 16% of Chinese exports go to USA, and of those manufactured items very few are genuine Made in China product, most are just outsourced American manufacturers...
    There's many countries far smaller than USA who separately take almost as much Chinese exports as USA does...
     

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