Julian Assange seeks asylum in Ecuador...-tk3

Well said ,other then your writing off of the proletariet Army in America ,an agry one at that for class society ala capitialist variety is most unabashed in the US Imperialist Homeland.

Meanwhile ,the self proclaimed president gizzard in OZ,says yes Mr obama 2500 foreign Troops on our soil ,"No worries",who made the ALP Dictator and as for Tony big ears well what an OAF!Need more be said!

Bring it on the working class needs an enemy clear as it tests itself in Political struggle .i can feel that with the fall of queen gillard ,ms republican\monarchist,WHATEVER ,we want an election YESTERDAY !

The Rightwing ALP dishounourable Lying former prime minister julia Gillard!

Rot in hell the ALP\ACTU Political capitialist duopoly in the working class.nationalist crap!

here Nat\Lib stupidocracy,here lib \Nat stupudity ,come get your ears clipped stupid liberal|nat coillition here lap dogs for rupert murdoch ,cometh the CLASS WAR the real one with real workers ,goody its political open season ON ALL FORMS OF DECAYING CAPITIALIST LIBERALISM ,Goody!

 

The Nation called incorrectly from an historical perspective and culturally 2300 year old thinking ,ISRAEL has built WALLS,as israel was a creation hatched in the diseased mind of joseph stalin it is hardly surprising ,and the nasty Fascist as in Hitlerite touch of creating Human Ghetto's for ethnic cleansing of course .

Something said about nations and Wall construction .?

Ask the Trotskyist movement for what is Stalinism!

 

Yes, the Berlin Wall was built to stop the waves of suicide bombers or possible terrorists like in Israel, or to stop massive flood of illegal immigration and drug dealers from southern countries like in the US.

 

for the land of OZ be a wierd place with the New new world feel about it ,for a stage of national independence from big brother and old Colonial imperialist masters and NEW!

Hey ,are we really prepared as a "nation" to accept dictates from the US state department as gospel and our foreign policy ,EXCUSE ME<from the land of mitt romney ,barak Obama ,newt,sarah and the whole gaagle of Non Politics ,these people do not think .STUPID ignorant and phillistine covers them all ,RIC Santorum ,need more be said.

and any of them say to julia our little president gillard ,and well need not be said ANZUS ,and stop thinking!

Bob Carr is UNELECTED foriegn minister ,Who voted for this dinosaur of the ALP NSW Sussex street Putridity,scabs and blacklegs.

By Appointment of Queen gizzard of OZ!

 

Exactly the excuse that hitler and stalin Gave ,almost verbatim ,see nothing in your head hasn't already been thought over politically speaking ,nothing is in a sense original ,nationalist Thinking as in the extereme forms of stalinism and hitlerite fascism were not accidental ,and as zionism is an extreme form of nationalism well birds of a feather ,methodise together same form of thinking arises .

You have a choice of course to chose not to think like stalin and hitler and educate yourself about history ,politics,economics and philoshophy or epistomology .means you get serious and really think about what you say politically and the source of those WALL as POLITICAL barriers Ideas.

Ever heard of the warsaw ghetto for instance ??

Oh sorry for your reference the Gaza strip and west bank.Enclaves is a good decription as is WALLED OFF COMMUNITIES ,lambs for later slaughter .GENOCIDE ,The Palestinian Resistance to US Imperialism not just Israel is what they fear!

You do know who formed the United nations that gave rise to the Historical abortion in a bucket called ISRAEL!

that would be joseph stalin and US Imperialism >in 1947-8,Stalin took a personal intrest by the way.

Israel dosen't deserve the title nation ,Tribal distortion maybe ,historical aborition definitly.Stalinist Inspired factually!

 

Newsflash!

all forms of government both present and Past have been dictatorships ,Ever since the slave owning Class of helenic Greek society coined the term democracy funnily enough!

but as we know and still relate to is that its democracy for the ruling class ,and at this stage of history that is now becoming increasingly up for grabs ,as the old capitialist ruling class is well going a bit nutty with the austerity ,making the other great social class the working Class VERY UNHAPPY ,haven't been this unhappy since the last GREAT DEPRESSION!

BTW,the form of Capitialist dictatorship in the USA ,is scientifically Known as bourgeois democratic.past tense ,now whether its fascism or socialism that rises from the debris as Bourgeois liberalism implodes is well to be sorted out in the Class struggle.

Sorry about the old social contrct being torn up from the left ,like communist real fair dinkum LEFT ,Revolutionary Working Class marxist LEFT!

i don't concider that anything about Obama is "Progressive ' or left wing " or even "liberal democratic .BTW,Drawing up weekly drone death lists well is not a democratic as in Equality thing!

not even in the tradition Bourgeois definition .

Oh get ready for the open dictatorship of money over human coming to a nation near you!

Or overthrow capitialism and form a workers government Globally!NO MORE NATION WALLS separating human productive forces.

 

So if you're not american, so why make such a stupid comparison..? Do you think I'm picking on the poor Americans or something..?

 

Phil, you're Australian, so wtf are you talking about..? Newsflash... Revolutionary Govts need to maintain national borders to protect citizens from capitalist invasion... Even in the USSR, ppl retained regional culture and differences, because that's what people do and revolution doesn't go by the Marxist text book...
If your revolution isn't for a people's govt controlled by the people and even reflecting their own national and cultural interests then you are just looking to create a dictatorship...

 

you said you felt sorry for americans which is bull(*)(*)(*)(*). You hate them, plain and simple, and this thread alone proves it. Thats why you sound like those homophobes who don't want to be labelled as such, that's the comparison i was going for. And since when i need to be american to call on your hatred?

 

Why wouldn't I feel sorry for Americans..? They live in the most imprisoned nation on the planet, yet are under the delusion they're free..? They lecture others about free speech, while they don't even know what it means...
They tell others that democracy is the best form of govt, but how would they know if they've never tried it..?
Yes I feel sorry for Americans and their appalling labor conditions, lack of universal healthcare or a decent welfare system...
Don't try to psychoanalyse me... You're not qualified to make a judgement on my opinion of ameritardia yet... Hate is such a strong word...
Yes I do hate American war crimes and atrocities, I do hate the American War on Terra...
Ordinary Americans I feel sorry for them...

 

Main reason for feeling sorry for Americans is their stupid economy... Also their delusion that everyone is jealous of them... Personally I wouldn't be American for $1million...

 

I feel sorry for you to, and we'll leave at that.

 

You know there was a neo-nazi uprising in East Berlin 1952, don't you..?
You do know that Harry Truman, thru the CIA, directly funded and encouraged former nazi collaborators in Eastern Europe..?
The Truman plan was a slow burner, not actualised till the Color Revolutions allowed Croatia to "rehabilitate" it's nazi collaborators as national resistance heroes, even while they carried out acts of genocide against Serbs in Bosnia... Or when the American embassy in Estonia sends candles to a memorial for nazis who died under Soviet bombing of Tallin...

 

So the heroin trade has followed America around se Asia and central Asia... From Vietnam to Laos and Cambodia, to Afghanistan and Kosovo... Russia is currently flooded with American heroin from Afghanistan...
Oh yes but you think Israel and ameritardia are the only ones with right to protect their borders..?

 

Nazis were no worse than the soviets.

Uh...no. Everyone has the right to protect their borders. The Berlin Wall was not about protection though. I know in your fantasy world it was.

 

This is especially true for Laos.

But it should read "from Laos to Vietnam"..

 

To say nazis were no worse than the soviets is a form of holocaust denial and holocaust minimalism...
Btw in the period of Stalin's rule he was responsible for the deaths of less Soviet citizens than South American citizens killed by the USA... If you bring in global American mass murder in same period then USA is on same level as hitler only worse because hitler fell after only a bit over a decade...

I think you'll find the reasons the Germans didn't like being occupied by the soviets is because the soviets were angry about how many Soviet citizens had been killed...
I also think you'll find that many east German citizens came to love the state socialist system imposed on them...
I also think you'll find that East German citizens resent the way West German Corporations looted their state owned industry, fired them all and pilfered their pension funds when the wall came down...

Way way off topic but America-lovers like daddyofail don't understand it's ameritardia that's the one convening a Grand Jury to see if they can indict Assange and extradite him from Sweden...
Sweden has handed prisoners into the custody of American torturers during the War on Terra...

 

Oh and the Berlin Wall was about the occupation and division of a country which had attacked Poland and Russia three times in less than a century from its first unification as a nation, plunging Europe into two world wars and one Europe wide war...

 

Unlike you i can see faults in america, whether you can't and wont admit how far worse your socialist buddies were.

Holocaust denial or minimalism?..Stalin had a thing called gulags you might want to look that up.

And the Germans suffered under soviets couse they were angry at Germans eh? All europe was angry at germans, but i'll bet no one beat the murdering or rape record of the soviets.

At least you admit the socialist state was imposed on them, i don't doubt some east Germans did like the regime, after all every one has its cup of tea, even nutjobs such as yourself.

 

There's a big difference between having an underclass vs. having the vast majority of your population living as an underclass would.

America has plenty of problems, but if we're comparing the U.S. to North Korea, well, obviously, life is better here.

Life would be better in any OECD country and even a lot of non-OECD ones.

 

It's the problem we faced with the Cold War. We befriended a lot of nasty individuals in order to contain Soviet influence. I guess we've gotten in such a habit of it that we continue to do so after the war ended.

Granted, we first started making questionable allies in the late 1800s/early 1900s when we began manipulating Central and South American countries.

 

The Soviets did an excellent job of running East Germany similarly to the Nazi ideal, so I guess we're even.

They're already China's (*)(*)(*)(*)(*), so this shouldn't be a surprise.

We take turns with them, essentially.

 

Stalin had something called Gulags, where less people were imprisoned than are currently held in the USA... Among the detainees at the gulags were whole divisions of nazi collaborators, including a Ukrainian ss platoon who was traded to Britain in a prisoner exchange...
It was those Ukrainian ss members who western intelligence got all their "inside information" on the gulags from...
The gulags were not death camps, and to imply they were is the same type of holocaust denial that I'm already accusing you of...
Yes the occupation of East Germany was imposed by force, just as the occupation of East Germany was...
Maybe you don't remember young West Germans blowing up and assassinating former nazis installed by the NATO occupation..? Or blowing up a nightclub full of US Marines..?

 

^ just as the NATO occupation of West Germany was...

 

They were labor camps in which a lot of people died rather miserably, so I don't see much difference between that and death camps.

It's ok though. I know the standard answer from you is that anything Soviet is admissible whereas anything American is either retarded or evil.