Wow....you got me there!! you really did! Never crossed my mind! I've been lied to, i mean they were really crying!! right?? gosh!
Are you one of those American idiots who think they pretended to be upset because they were scared not to..? Don't underestimate the Korean ppl... They're not afraid of America do why would they be afraid of other Koreans..?
tok3z i think it is about time you stop sucking on the US hate tit, its unhealthy and its starting to show.
I think it was a combination, actually. Some were afraid not to, but probably the majority have been so thoroughly indoctrinated into juche that they really believe Kim was some sort of god.
Only comment on this thread is that "there goes the neighborhood". Was thinking about retiring to Ecuador in a few years..... Still might unless I end up in Panama?
And you've been so indoctrinated by Americanism you think you're not the biggest oppressor of human rights on the planet... The uncounted millions who died under American bombs beg to differ...
Lol... I don't hate Americans... I feel sorry for Americans... Noone is jealous of your freedom in the most imprisoned nation on the planet... I think it's really odd how you point at North Korea allegedly oppressing Koreans when the regime is protecting them from the killer of the most Koreans, USA... One in Five..!!!
Let's say we are. What does that mean? Does that change how I live or how I view things? Tok3z, if you want us to be the bad guys, I don't have a problem with that. It might even be a little fun. So, we've killed a lot of people in war. Oh well. We're the evil empire, but I still get to live better than the vast majority of the world. Since we also have an excessively powerful military, we don't have to worry about an invasion or drone attacks. Yeah, I guess it makes sense that so many people hate us then from that view, but the best part about this is that they really can't do much about it. The odds of another 9/11 happening are very low. Despite how paranoid some of our people are, there's actually not much reason to be fearful. We're more likely to get mugged or killed by someone on the bad side of town than by some terrorist. So maybe I've been too harsh with you. Maybe I can't blame you for hating us as much as you do since karma doesn't really exist. Maybe it's better that I let you vent about these things, since we both know that there's really not much you can do about our foreign policy. But the one thing this ultimately means is that might wins regardless of whether it's perceived as "good" or "evil."
Now you're starting to sound like those guys that don't hate gay people and just want to save them from that abominable lifestyle and whatnot...seriously though, US's government is not known to starve its own people unlike the North Koean government do. How's that protecting them from USA? And aint it something that the US did (don't know if they still do) send billions of dollars in assistance to the North Koreans mostly for food aid? I don't know what the Northern officials did with that money, but i'll bet it was not used to feed their population. How's that protecting North Koreans from the US? Next thing you're telling me is, North Korean government won't allow the people to leave the country to protect them from US atrocities, you know, much like the Berlin Wall was built and all...
Please do not equate the people of the place with the government of gillard and tony big ears Abott. Some of us the majority call on the gillard joke of a government to defend the citizen of Australia and grant him return unfettered without possibility of extradition to the USA or sweden for that matter ,imagine a backward nation like sweden that allows charges without reveiw of a judge to lead to extradition ,amazing that such a place calls itself civilised in law. haven't the swedes gone backward or what and an english court agrees to it AMAZING .What happened to the magna carta.Not a shread of EVIDENCE presented not a shread on any allegation from Rape to espionage.
Crickey ,not the USA that i have known where millions of its citizens go hungry everyday ,the use of food stamps to stop death by starvation says it all really in the Land of milk and honey . BTW,you are thinking Nice US Capitialism without Austerity you haven't seen nothing yet ,nasty Capitialisim is coming ,we see it already .
Julian Assange would be given sanctuary by a workers government of Australia.As only a workers government can and will defend DEMOCRACY and the rights of all .AGAINST the capitialist gangsters.
Ah! Magna Carta -. it reminds me of that wonderful line from Tony Hancock from BBC's "Twelve Angry Men " it closed the boozes at half past ten. ENJOY : [video=youtube;JNZosqiJISs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNZosqiJISs[/video]
With many exceptions such as Adolf, Benito , FRanco, Salazar , Papadopoulos (greece) + a string of South American republics Its interesting to note why , with one or two exceptions most dictators, like Mubarak etc. was also close friends/allies of America, even Saddam + Castro was ONCE very pally with your lot in Washington. .... -----
I don't care to "save you from your abominable lifestyle"... Why would I..? USA is the biggest threat to life, liberty and human rights on the planet... This is about saving the world from you... Don't try to pretend America is the victim of prejudice by comparing yourself to homosexual rights... Lol... That's funny... Right to what..? Be a war criminal nation..?
Food aid..? North Korea didn't need food aid before 1992, and only needed it after because of American sanctions... After killing 1 in 5 Koreans how many dictatorships did USA back in South Korea and for how long..? You don't even know do you..? America isn't just a threat to human rights by your wars... The largest massacre since ww2 happened in Indonesia while your current president was attending school there, and was directed by the US Consul to Australia and Indonesia...
The Berlin Wall..? East Germany was under soviet occupation just as West Germany was under NATO occupation... It was the Americans and British who insisted on keeping hold of West Berlin, well inside East Germany... All while America was putting former nazis in public service positions, in control of police force and as judges and magistrates... Even installed one as Secretary General of the UN, remember..? Germany was occupied and divided for a very good reason, remember..?
You know those people that hate gay people and when confronted with the fact that they're homophobic they excuse themselves saying they only want to try to save gay people? That's what you sounded like and thats what i meant to say. In no way was i making or pretending to compare it with homosexual rights. I was just calling you on your hatred nothing else. And to get another thing straight, im not american.
Why did American sanctioned North Korea in the first place? And what did the North Koreans do with the US food aid? How many Northern Korean lives would that food aid save if properly used (and maybe it was, though i doubt it). How's that protecting North Koreans from US? How is South Korea a dictatorship? Seriously, you're hate-trip is clearly clouding your judgment here. There's only one ville dictatorship in the Korean peninsula, and it's not endorsed or supported by the US (Now you're going to give me examples of US supporting other dictatorships, South Korean ones also, yes indeed they have, unfortunately US doesn't always get it right, but i'd expect no less from a world power trying to, at the time overcome Communist influence around the world). Should the US have stopped supporting South Korea, during military dictatorship (rather military than communist) risking loosing an important ally? Well maybe, but you don't get to be a superpower by staying true to your values. Oh and by the way who did start the Korean War? The US right?? And how come since 1992 North Korea was so perfect but when faced with sanctions million of their people starve? Cuba and Iran are under sanctions but i've never heard of malnutrition levels such as the one seen in North Korea.
You do know who built the wall don't you? And why? Aint that something, when given the opportunity no one ever chooses communism. How come any communist regime never won an election... I feel we're getting way off topic here, but you don't mind that do you?
This situation is so dumb. Once again, the Australian Govt bows down and willingly becomes America's (*)(*)(*)(*)(*).