Shootings at Sikh Temple Near My Mouse

No, the Sikh have reported 700 bias attacks, plus one murder after 9/11.

 

Condolences goes out to those that have lost someone in this tragedy. Such a sad, sad event, and it's a testament of things to come.

Lets now look at some of the facts:

-Media reporting one shooter, it's always a "lone wolf"
-Worked for US army, in the psychological operations department (PSYOP)
-connected to Fort Bragg military base, which has a history of violence and mass shootings.

Now lets look outside the box

-Multiple eye witnesses reporting it was a "coordinated attack"
-Multiple eye witnesses reporting seeing "multiple gunmen" carried out the attack

[video=youtube;2yNS6Ha5Vy8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yNS6Ha5Vy8[/video]

Down the rabbit hole we go...

 

Here we go again.... conspiracy central.

 

Here we go again.... sheep central.

 

Hasn't the sikh community spokespersons been stating that this is a hate crime? So the authorities are calling it one thing and the sikh community isn't in line with the domestic terrorist designation.

 

At least no wicked communists are suggesting that it might be caused by your arming every nutter to the teeth.

 

He was an army veteran. There's a good chance that, even if we had gun laws as strict as the U.K., he'd be able to get a gun.

 

When something goes wrong in the U.K. and people die as a result, do you automatically assume the government is behind it?

 

Why? We don't arm ex-servicemen here. Why should we?

 

Absolutely. The sooner you come out of your 5th grade mindset of "My government is better than yours", the better. I live in the UK. If an event like this took place in the UK, the first place I would turn would be my government. They already have our guns so of course such things never happen in the UK. When Jean Charles de Menezes was shot and killed by police in the London Underground, I immediately suspected government involvement and that rabbit hole goes pretty deep. It's obvious to all that are awake that 7/7 was a false flag, the ringleader being a former MI6 asset.

Look, unlike you, I'm not domesticated, drugged, or suffering Stockholm syndrome, I KNOW who the real enemy of the people is, and I can tell you it's not Al-Qaeda. Listen, I'm not saying this or the Colorado shootings were 100% definitely staged. But if you know as much as I do about state sponsored terror, false flag events etc. you will AUTOMATICALLY suspect the #1 cause of these things: government.

Regardless of whether you want to admit it or not, there is a HISTORY of false flag attacks carried out by that very government. Gulf of Tonkin, USS Maine, Operation Northwoods (which called for blowing up US jets over Cuba, staging attacks on Guantanamo Bay, shootings in the streets of Washington) etc.
This could easily be a mentally ill imbecile, or it could be something else. You do yourself a disservice by not looking at alternative views.

But, keep drinking the kool-aid, keep CNN/Faux News/CBS as your official mouthpiece, believe the "truth" they tell you, don't do your research, don't think for yourself, don't look at all the oddities of the event, disregard eye witness accounts...the government loves you, go back to sleep.

I clearly don't get it, I'm the bad guy, I'm the phony, I'm the liar, I'm the terrorist, I'm the deceiver, it's not like the US government has ever been caught red handed in some sort of staged event or another...no sir, that's never happened.

I'm just saying. He was a former psychological operations (PSYOP) expert in the US army. fort Bragg has a history of producing mass shooters. The Colorado shooter's psychiatrist was a top Air force psychiatrist. He was on a DARPA funded Neuroscience degree, one of 6 in the country. They always seem connected to matters dealing with the mind. All witnesses in both shootings sighted multiple gunmen but MSM always goes with a "lone wolf"

Just something to think about, if it offends you, I couldn't care less, people need to be WOKEN UP someday! might as well be today.

 

I guess it works differently here. Unless a soldier is going through PTSD or some other mental problem, we take into account that their previous experience with weapons makes it logical for them to have access to weapons.

As much as I know you hate guns, logically, blaming this incident on the availability of guns is just silly.

He could have just as easily planted a bomb in this building as shooting it up was. It doesn't take much knowledge to make a bomb out of cleaning materials or fertilizer.

 

I'm not saying you're the bad guy. I'm just saying you're paranoid. How do the people you associate with on a daily basis react to your conclusions?

If I went on rants like this, they'd think I was a little off.

 

lol the typical crazies come in with their gun control rhetoric.

Time to shoot down this horse excrement.

1.) He could have killed 10x more with a single fertilizer bomb. He didn't need a gun, it would have been easier to kill much more with a bomb which he can make in his kitchen. So that debunks that.

2.) There's these things about laws and people hell bent on an agenda...it's funny, but DID YOU KNOW, people dead set on an agenda tend NOT to follow laws? did you know that criminals tend not to follow laws? if you pass gun control laws, the ONLY people that will be exempt from this law, are criminals (who will keep their guns regardless) and people hell bent on an agenda (who will get the gun anyway)

3.) States with the strictest gun control laws have the highest gun violence - explain that! Chicago is more dangeous than Afghanistan, and that is a totally gun controlled state...why in a state where no one can get guns, is gun crime at an all time high? Why is it that in Mexico the gun crime is through the roof, even though Mexicans aren't allowed to own guns??? hmmmmmmm prolly has something to do with all those criminals who still have their guns terrorizing the public. Just a guess. Nothing too serious...

4.) Of ALL mass shootings in US history, ALL but ONE, have taken place in GUN-FREE zones. i.e. schools, shopping centers, universities, restaurants etc. Who would have thought...it appears that mass killers like to prey on those that are not armed. What a revelation. It's clear that all but one mass shooting on US soil, has taken place in gun-free zones. These are zones were the law abiding public refused to take their guns in with them, but one (or more) nutcase(s) or criminal(s), does. But I thought that gun-free zones was the answer? I thought if you say to the public "you're not allowed guns in here", then surely there'll be no more shootings? Turns out, the opposite is true, gun free zones encourage mass shootings.

Do you see how that works? it's called the "path of least resistance" - of course mass killers and criminals would attack schools, shops and sikh temples, there's no one there to stop them.

5.) Car accidents and fires kill more people than guns do EVERY single year in the states. pretty much worldwide too. You don't here anything about putting stricter car control laws. There's no "war on fire". Additionally of the thousands killed by guns every year, a LARGE PERCENTAGE of those are SUICIDES. But of course, they won't tell you that...just like here in the UK, loads of people like to hang themselves or jump in front of moving trains, but we don't call those "rope crimes" and "train crimes"

Total baloney, none of it is real, these people are clueless to the facts. People kill people. Guns are but a tool. If it wasn't guns, it'd be swords and knifes or bombs. Cars kill more people, massacres happen the most in gun free locations, get with the facts.

 

Well, AB, I'm glad we at least agree on gun policy.

 

Not sure about the UK, but in Australia military service makes no difference when applying for a gun license. In Australia we have no need to bare arms, in Australia we live in the 21st century, we have left our past behind, we remember those who died for our freedom, hopefully learned from our mistakes, and we are looking and moving forward.

 

Well, like I said, it works differently here.

I hope Australia continues to not need personal handgun use, but here, it really is necessary.

 

Of course it works differently in America,, and guns are NOT the problem, there are deeply rooted social problems.

Take the guns out of American society and you'll see loonies find other methods,, probably much more creative ones.

 

I'm sorry to hear about such hate. My prayers are with those affected by such recklessness.

 

Alert your mouse at once please. He is in terrible danger!

 

Seriously, anti-religious bigotry (this time against Sikhs) should be condemned by all decent individuals.

 

Crazy is crazy. This is not a right or left issue. It is about right and wrong. The shooter is clearly nuts. Extremist groups need to be watched, having said that I am not sure how to do it so it is effective in preventing the senseless act of violence.

 

Hmmm..

Because of their customary beards and turbans, Sikh men are often confused for Hindus or Muslims -- and have been the targets of hate crimes

(From link)


Wouldn't put it past being the work of some demented but politically motivated individual, like the Norwegian killer.

If it turns out to be, watch out for any politcal motive being downplayed, and the 'mental illness' card, being used..

 

Shows how retarded the attackers are.

And indiscrimate.

Because, truth be told, many such kinds, although Muslims are the target of the day, would also hate on Sikhs or Hindus, for racist reasons.

Racism is still rampant in large parts of the US.

 

Have they shot dead that guy?

Hmm.

I would sooner he was taken alive.

Now we won't know the story.

 

It will be interesting to see what the police and FBI turn up in his papers and personal effects. He may have acted as a lone wolf, but he may also have ties to people who think that this is a good way to get the RaHoWa off and running.

Either way, anyone with whom he is associated needs to be looked at very carefully.

White nationalists are as much a threat to domestic tranquility and security as all the Muslim extremists in the country.