Shootings at Sikh Temple Near My Mouse

I tend to agree that our culture is helping to shape these nuts. In both the Columbine and the Batman shootings, the perpretrators were even directly inspired by movie violence. This culture of ours doesn't affect everyone the same way, of course, but there are bound to be those for whom it becomes toxic enough to lead to the results we have seen. Yes, people are desensitised to gun violence and gore. Modern games and movies are undoubtedly a bloodier, often more sadistic and always a more personal experience than even the arena was in Roman times.

For a mind like that of James Holmes, the unspeakably nasty character of Heath Ledger's Joker was a hero and a clear inspiration.

 

No - there are no profiteers gaining from making bombs, nor many films where people throw bombs at one another. Your very high death rate is caused by the availablility of guns and the propaganda of the death merchants. We have sensible gun laws and only the IRA and a few angry young people from colonised countries make bombs, as you know.

 

Yes. The nosferax keeps sending me dislikes like confetti, why I don't know. What is it anyway, this Nosferax? I never see its posts.

 

don't be ridiculous!

the poster in question does it for all the posters he doesn't like.

I'm not here that much, but the other day when I signed there were 22 dislikes from noswhatsit .... all posted within about 30 minutes ... the posts he was responding to had been posted over several days.

in fact, his repetitive dislike aimed at individual posters is pretty much a form of personal attack.


but seriously, I couldn't care less - it offers amusement at nozzie's expense ....

if he clicks dislike as often as that its because he doesn't have any substantive arguments against the points raised by posters he dislikes...

 

there is a lot more to it ....

tighter gun laws might be seen as a quick fix by some, but even if the majority were agreeable to it, I think the real problem would not be addressed ... and censoring violent movies as well wouldn't work.

there are some fundamental problms which are just too hard for most americans to even want to consider

 

The biggest of which is that they are mostly armed to the teeth, so that whenever their system sends them nuts they start killing. It is going to be a slow job, but it is why I keep nosing in. If the death-merchants are allowed to be unopposed you will go on murdering forever, and it will spread too.

 

No profiteers making bombs, eh? I guess you kind of forgot about war in general.

Availability isn't the issue, for the last freaking time. If it was, Canada would have death rates comparable to our own.

 

I find it kind of funny to go through a thread and see nearly every post say "Nosferax disliked this post".

I got really good at predicting my new notifications lately lol

 

Kobiashi Maru, as far as I can see. This seems like a no-win scenario.

 

Getting a gun in Canada isn't as easy as getting one in the States.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-11.6/

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/index-eng.htm

Explore through those websites if you want to know more.

But I don't think you can compare Canada and the US when it comes to gun control or gun violence.

I personally have never applied for a license or owned a gun, so I don't speak from personal exoerience onky what others have told me and also the fact I have never had a gun pulled on me yet.

 

American culture has become a culture where guns and violence are almost like vital organs. I'm not meaning to single out the Us here, this is the topic.

You cannot simply ban guns and movies and expect it to go away.

At this point, banning guns is futile. While it is still better than nothing, Americans who want guns will still get guns regardless.

I think the root of the problem is now psychological. People who go on mass shooting spree are not mentally sound.

Maybe some kind of psychological tests before allowing somebody to own a gun may help? To make sure they are stable enough to own a gun safely.

And more indepth background checks. To prevent people with a history of crime or violence from obtaining guns.

 

Witnesses say there were 4 armed assailants.
Yet, you all ignore that and focus on the fall guy.
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http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1605.htm

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There is absolutely nothing stopping the mentally deranged from obtaining firearms from the black market, which then becomes less traceable in the event of a crime. You genuinely have to be retarded to not be capable of finding these weapons.........

 

Not sure if he was a tea party member or not. They are describing him as a rightwing extremist consumed with hate with ties to the skinhead white supremacy movement. We can logically assume he is not an Obama supporter and Romney can count on one less voter.

 

Yep. False Flag, multiple shooters. Just like Aurora.

 

[video=youtube;rrM0xgCkxjQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrM0xgCkxjQ[/video]

Police in Wisconsin said one suspect had been "put down" outside a Sikh temple and they did not know if other shooters were inside the building and it was later confirmed that there was only one active shooter involved in the incident and another suspect who happened to be in the area at the time of the shooting was cleared after he was identified by the police.

 

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Go to the 9:00 mark on this video, and you'll see YET another witness report saying that there were multiple shooters.

This is the exact same Modus Operandi as with Aurora and Wisconsin, in both cases, the eye witnesses report seeing multiple gunmen. Media goes with the "lone wolf" theory. Looks like a false flag to me.

2 possibilities here:

-Exactly as the media tells us, a white supremacist hate crime against Sikhs, by someone who mistook them to be Muslims...the perpetrator is now dead. Highly unlikely.

-Government sponsored massacre, multiple gunmen carry out the shootings, scapegoat patsy is murdered (this may not have been intentional).

-Compartmentalized Psychological operations drill gone "live"

This is how this stuff works. Notice the way the media jumped on the "hate crime", disregarded all testimony of "multiple gunmen", Keep in mind the background of this so called lone wolf. Looks like a total psyop.

We're supposed to believe that a white supremacist, who worked for the US army for years, as a Psyop specialist, doesn't know the difference between Sikhs and Muslims? Pull the other one...

 

And I acknowledged that.

But clearly doing nothing is not helping. This issue will not just go away on its own.

 

A tragedy for sure. I live in an area of British Columbia with a HUGE Sikh minority, and I must say, the Sikh I have met are wonderful people.

 

It's just something we (when I say we I mean Americans, you have nothing to do with it but I appreciate you sticking your nose in our affairs) have to accept. All "solutions" will be an assault on freedom for law abiding Americans.

 

Oh, the irony of that statement.

 

Funny, have picture of my father wearing a turban in WWII. And I just happen to have a kirpan in my desk drawer. Not everyone has 78 records of one string wonders from India, camel bells, or their bible stand carved from Indian Teak wood.

Our public schools for the most part cannot touch religion. I had a class in one public school that taught Native American religion, another class (drama) taught Greek Myths, but just about anything else was off limits. Cannot touch the Digambara for a real discussion of freedom of religion.

 

If this isn't a false flag.

Gun control is not the answer, we need to look at the psychological makeup of the United states.The 2nd amendment is there for a reason, and it's not hunting.

If this tragedy, is not a false flag like so many of them are, especially at a time when the US government is making it clear that the new enemy is the American public and returning veterans. We need to look at the impact psychotropic drugs produced by Big Pharma (Glaxo, Merck, Bayer etc.) are having on the minds of Americans. It's well know the Columbine massacre shooters were on psychiatric drugs that could promote violence (as a side-effect). It's a well known, documented fact that legal, pharmaceutical drugs kills more people every year than guns.

 

There was an airliner shot down by missile over the Atlantic. Hundreds saw the missile go up and hit the plane, yet the officials ignore them and go with a spark in a gas tank pseudo hypothesis.

I am thinking that the reason they hit the Sikh folks is in retribution to the many Muslim fanatics killed by Sikhs in India.

After all if the US is actively supporting Muslim cutthroats in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya and Syria, and have a Muslim Brotherhood adviser at the ear of the Secretary of State, why not get some revenge on the Sikhs as a kickoff to a Muslims vs Christian thing here as they have done in Yugoslavia, Libya and now Syria?

Yeah, the Sikhs are not Muslims, but the system is working real hard at setting up so called Whites as the initiating party to further actions that will shift as things develop.

 

I see the US as a v fractured people, who always want to find enemies, externallly or even fight among each other.

I think it would be almost impossible to unite the people of the US, to a common cause that was genuinely good, over the past 20 yrs esp, your media has taught you to hate one another, for some given to you reason.

I see it here, all the time, one American hating another, for being a 'liberal'.

I mean REALLY hating.

And if not them, it is something else.

I think your population has grown too fast, too soon, and that your Gov has become too distant, and too non people orientated.

I truly believe that on even a sub concious level, decades of occupational type wars, and racist rhetoric in your mainstream media, has damaged your society, Serf.