The only gaffe is more RW political nonsense. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-warns-egypt-ally-enemy-140958144--election.html "I don't think that we would consider them an ally, but we don't consider them an enemy. They're a new government that is trying to find its way," Obama replied in what, by the standards of diplomatic talk, amounted to a blunt warning.
Amen to that. I'm sure we can find better things to do with $1.5 billion than hand it over to the Ikhwan...
ESPECIALLY after his sycophantic devotees spiked the OBL football...yet again...just a week before during their internationally televised convention..... Hmmm....let's see... 9/11 is approaching, we just killed the Islamofascists' most treasured leader, so let's boastfully drag his corpes out for political expedience during our convention, and not bother to have any extra security in place at embassies in the unstable, increasingly volatile ME.... And when the (*)(*)(*)(*) predictibly hits the fan....let's make it ALL about Romney ! GENIUS!!
So I would assume since you think Egypt is in a questionable state, protecting our people should have been a priority?
Lets play out the different options and the resulting wingnut response: Obama: Egypt is certainly a great US ally. Wingnut response: The Muslim Brotherhood is now our ALLY!!!??? I told you Obama was a Muslim!! Obama: Egypt is an enemy. Wingnut response: See. See how he just sat back and did nothing while the US friendly government got run out of town by the Muslim Brotherhood??!! I told you Obama was a Muslim!! Obama: Egypt is neither an ally....or an enemy. Wingnut response: Continue with your thread.
She must be disappointed in you. There are other things that allies do rather than provide bases and manpower. We have no bases in France, Ireland, the Czech Republic, Ukraine, New Zealand, Mexico......Are they not our allies? By the way, we do maintain two bases in Egypt as part of a peace-keeping mission between Israel and Egypt. We are allowed flight corridors and naval refueling over and in Egypt. Can't state how long it might last under current situation.
Indeed. Marines could have countered terrorists. The terrorists brought machine guns to the Chicago-style fight and we armed glorified mall cops with sidearms.
Since 1989 Egypt has been formally our ally.... and we lost that on Barack Obama's watch. He also lost major opportunities in Iran and Syria and Libya.... the guy is a loser.
There's a LIST?!?! So, they are our military allies? What type of ally are they to us? Go ahead - I'll be waiting... Show us the list. NOW THE FUNNY!!!! In another thread the Republicans are saying that Egypt ARE NOT our allies and we should arm the Marines at the Embassy!!!!!
"Alley"....I do not think this word means what you think it means. It is Ally, not Alley. Also, his wording was NOT a gaffe. It was a carefully worded statement to the Egyptian President that it was time for him to condemn the attack on our Embassy or suffer th consequences. It worked. Shortly after it was released, the Egyptian President released the statement desired.
Ok well how about the leftist/media response? Obama: Egypt is certainly a great US ally. Leftists/Media: YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY OBAMA. BOOOOOOOOO MITT ROMNEY!!!! Obama: Egypt is an enemy. Leftists/Media: YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY OBAMA. BOOOOOOOOO MITT ROMNEY!!!! Obama: Egypt is neither an ally.... or an enemy. Leftists/Media: YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY OBAMA. BOOOOOOOOO MITT ROMNEY!!!! Which is more dangerous, the truth (republican) or a bunch of lies (leftists/media)?
The US sends Egypt aid and became tight with Egyptian military is to ensure that they maintained the peace with Israel. Mubarak stayed bought off. The new regime is a whole other story. Obama sent a very clear message to the Egyptian regime. The right will never be satisfied no matter what Obama does. The right can't quite come to grips with all the good stuff he's done, particularly because they have tried so hard to stop him from doing anytthing, so they twist, spin and lie about him in very simple language and wrapped in the flag so their base can learn and repeat the lie/accusation/spin. What I find frightening about this is that the direction most powerful nation on earth is in part being determined by a huge block of completely misinformed voters. Or does anyone think that 35% of ohio republicans think obama is a kenyan muslim and 20% think Romney should get more credit for offing bin ladin, are the judicious conclusions of the informed proletariat?
Only is your dreams. You just want it to crumble. I just want to know what Romney would do in the instance that an Ambasador was killed, not by a country's agents but insurgents bent on damaging the US. SO far, All I hear from him, on anything, is "Obama's policies are bad. He does not know how to lead." yet I do not actually hear ANYTHING of substance from HIM. If he wants votes from Independants and moderate Democrats then he needs to show me some substance. Oh, and if you were subjective, you would realize that President Obama is so Moderate that he almost makes the Bush Adminsitration look liberal.
I would suggest you to unplug your ears, if I knew you could. Romney points to the fact: "Obama's policies are bad. He does not know how to lead." It is a good start which makes Obama’s sheep to spin, twist and scream. Besides of that, bringing the sheep back to the topic topic, he has said that - Cons do not appololigize to terrosrists. - Cons stand for the freedom of speech, whether Dems, I mean Muslims like it or not. - Cons government will have everything to do to the film (movie) when Dems gov-nt has nothing to do to the movie, - Cons gov-nt will not back up from freedom of speech even when all Dems find it so insulting that Dems see no other choice but to support violence of Muslims instead of supporting the freedom of speech and the author of the movie. (Read/listen to Hillary speech: Hillary bowed to Muslims: Don’t blame the American Government, “the American gov-nt has absolutely nothing to do to the movie”. I guess she is asking Muslim to kill the Dutch ambassador (cartoons) or the author of the movie now. No, says Romney, your American gov-nt has absolutely nothing to do to the American people, the American freedoms and to American standing in the world. We don’t give out the Dutch ambassador or the author of the film to be raped and tortured. Our causes and standing in the world are clearly defined. We are intolerant.) Mubarac took sides with the US after Egypt’s alliance with the terrorist USSR suffered from wounds inflicted by the US – Israel alliance. He gave up the alliance with terrorism=communism/socialism and became our ally for decades. Gadaphi gave up alliance with terrorism scared by Bush policies. Obama has participated in the ruthless murder of both Mubarac and Gadaphi (including Gadaphi grandchildren). Obama supported organizations designated by Bush as terrorist (MB + AQ). Obama, Dems, McCain and Hillary look like having a pathological pleasure to watch all those people in Egypt and Libya tortured and murdered. I guess they think that it is what makes them all-powerful. Now they are not sure if the new regime they have propped is our ally. At the same time they supply and proper terrorists slashing a lot more human lives within a few months in Syria than Syrian dictator in decades. Then, when they establish their regime in Syria they will not know if it will be an ally or a foe. We, American people are responsible for degenerating ourselves to the condition when in 2004 election we (*)(*)(*)(*)ed, mocked and despised the decent man W. Bush and could only come up with 3 stooges as a replacement for W., - Obama, Mccain and Hillary… out of 300 million people rich nation. We’ve became tolerant of murder, envy, thievery, lies, deceptions, sodomy, greediness and fear. Oh, well, - says a democrat/R.Paul/G.Jonson supporter, - Prove such entities exist. We have turned our back to G-d and to his blessing of America. We have “God (*)(*)(*)(*) America!!!!” scream running the country. We have NO! NO!NO! to God scream running the country. Oh, well, - says a democrat/R.Paul/G.Jonson supporter, - Prove such an entity as God exists. I am not here to prove or disprove anything, I am here to demonstrate. Watch.
I'm not exactly an Obama fan, but I will concede that he's done some things right. It's just amusing how much the right hates him despite having basically the same foreign policy. Granted, it's also amusing how the people that hated Bush seem to love Obama. Foreign policy is where the parties seem to differ very little.
I suppose you could have said that a few weeks ago, but today? Apologizing to terrorists? Obama gave the oder to kill OBL, just like everyone other president would have done, but that's about where the similarities end. Obama's in the midst of a middle east melt down. The arabs actually liked Bush better.
Words don't mean as much as actions. Think about the contradiction inherent in a president that is a-ok with authorizing hits on terror suspects that are citizens while apologizing to world leaders. It's all a facade. Granted, it's a facade that works, since Obama's image overseas is more positive than Bush's was, but ultimately, his actions are very similar. We're still entering pointless conflicts and we're still detaining people indefinitely. We still have laws in place that allow the government to spy on us without any just cause.
Since 1989 Egypt has been formally our ally.... and we lost that on Barack Obama's watch. He also lost major opportunities in Iran and Syria and Libya.... the guy is a loser. It's like Jimmy Carter all over again.... but even worse.
I would have supported Obama's choice to either call them an ally or not an ally. But I would not have supported enemy.