Muslim vs. Christian

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sillyness .. Muslim vs Christian is like two brothers fighting over whose father loves one the most when in reality the father loves a third brother most.

    Islam and Christianity both claim "the God of Abraham" as their God. This God really loves his chosen people "Israel" the most.

    Both Islam and Christianity have demonized persecuted and killed Jews over the years. Christians more than Muslims but who's counting ;)

    Both Islam and Christianity have done much evil (in the name of God) .. again Christianity more so than Islam .. but who's counting ;)
     
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    Provide Quran verses to prove this is what all Muslims believe.

    If all Muslims believed this, trust me the world would be much, much worse that it was today.

    Tell me, what's the difference between beheading somebody and shooting them in the head

    http://www.fox17online.com/news/fox17-gr-man-shot-in-head-while-sitting-on-porch,0,2955290.story

    http://www.montereyherald.com/news/ci_21552383/prunedale-house-fire-burns-through-night

    Ah yes, remind me again all the movies directed by Muslims which insult Jesus and Moses (peace be upon them), all the International Burn the Torah/Bible Day's organization by Imams, all the anti-Christian and anti-Jewish hate websites (such as Jihad Watch, Religion of Peace, etc) started by Muslims, as well as the Muslim versions of Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, David Wood, Briggette Gabriel, etc.

    Surprise, another baseless claim.

    However that didn't stop these people...

    http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/state/trial-moved-for-ohio-man-accused-of-killing-daughter-in-law

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...stacked-bodies-bathtub.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

    Where is "this"?
     
  3. NavyIC1

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    The god of the three Abrahamic faiths is the god of Abraham (of course). Therefore, it is the SAME god. you just have different dogma surrounding the belief in that god. THe wonderful thing about the United States is that peole are free to believe whatever they want, unlike the majority of islamic countries. Now, I see all of the Abrahamic faiths as pretty evil and none of them really want to get along with the others. Millions of people have been killed in the name of Judism, Christianity, and Islam. Of course, to be fair, most religions can have that claim laid upon them.
     
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    www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_Weber.html
     
  5. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    I wouldn't bother Kholief-all you'll get in return is a stream of invective-it's the only thing the poster is capable of. The poster is a rabid Muslim hater and apologist for Israel.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Under-educated? It was, of course, Germany which started WW2 by invading Poland. Perhaps you need some new history books, rather than the American version...
    And yeah, what a cowardly attack by Japan. They really should have given you at least a week's notice-so you could get ready, like.:brainless:
    The rest of your post is infantile and not worth responding to in an adult forum.

    Oh, and here are some brave, fearless all-American warriors hiding in their gunship and murdering a few inconsequential ******* civilians. I'm sure you'll love this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwH7-J3b4bI
     
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    Excellent post. For many American's 9-11, just happened out of a metaphorically clear blue sky. Cause and effect, you see, must be extinguished from the public mindset by successive US governments, aided by their complict echo-chambers' in the coroporate mainstream media.

    For propaganda sponges, history literally began the day a bunch of Salafist, mainly Saudi extremists, flew planes into buildings. That's the historical time-frame.

    The US and her allies, who supposedly represent the "international community" (euphemism: the permenant members of the UN Security Council), only react to terrorism but can never cause it or be responsible for it. It's just not the kind of narrative that the powers that be want the public to know about.

    Democratic accountability, transparency and the free flow of information scares them, which is why governments' engage in a succession of public relations exercises which pass for political discourse.

    Censorship by omission and the regurgitation of false propaganda is the aim. And to their credit, they do it very well.

    The various misinformed posts on here are testament to that.
     
  8. Kholief

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    I know the reasons and justifications behind the attack , if invading mainland Japan was to costly for the US high command why didn't they attempt to broker a peace treaty? After all they had the Japanese crippled , in the end the US command led by Truman thought that killing hundreds of thousands was justifiable to achieve total victory.
    Heck it was easy for them all they had to do was drop a couple of bombs , they didn't even have to be there just give the command and watch a big explosion on your television set clean and easy.
     
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    Germany is a nation. Naziism is an ideology. Hitler represented the Naziz as Bin Laden represents muslims.
     
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    Nonsense

    Their aggression is because they are Muslims, and we are not.
     
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    THey tried to broke a surrender. Japan refused and it was only through a massive show of force the world had never seen before that brought the Japanese to the surrender table.
     
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    WTF? Hitler represented the Nazi PARTY. Bin Laden represented AL QAEDA. Neither are nations. Have you been at the Drano again?
     
  13. Kholief

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    Nice word play, Nazism was a sociopolitical movement much like modern day terrorism.So in fact then it should be Bin Laden represents terrorism.
     
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    Nonsense; the only reason for Hiroshima and Nagasaki was to impress Stalin.http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_Weber.html
     
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    [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
     
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    Saudi Arabia and the UAE have had a population explosion. They have ten times the population they had sixty years ago and very little of that is immigration. The Saudis now number 60 million people, up from around 6 million in 1952. By contrast, the population of Israel/Palestine was about 8 million in 1952 and it's about 11 million now, along with 3 to 5 million refugees.

    So even counting refugees Saudi Arabia has gone from fewer people than Israel/Palestine to having 5 times as many people. That's why they're paying some people not to work; they haven't been able to create the jobs for them.
     
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    The United States is a country. The country of Palestine has never existed.
     
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    America didn't exist as a nation once.
     
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    Either you are ok with this or you are not. I do not hold peaceful muslims to account for this type of action. (beheading Pearl with a dull rusty knife or setting off some type of explosive device in a market full of women and children) But by doing nothing and sitting on the sidelines watching it transpires while claiming NOT to be one of those is the same as enabling it.
    Radical muslims have exhibited time and again what they are made of, all in the name of islam. Islamic fundamentalism or die. Convert or die. Slavery. No basic fundamental Rights except for what little lattitude that is provided by sharia law.
    At least in some countries they have provisions for multi-religions, as long as they co-exist peaceably. Radical islamists have no such provisions, no "either or neither", just do it or suffer the consquences. I don't believe that religious genocide towards non-believers isn't radical islam's final solution.
    Still doesn't sound like anyone there is peaceful to me.
    Oh, by the way, my God isn't commanding me to kill anyone, including muslims and you claim your prophet is ordering you to kill in his name. My God believes in the sinner. I have a greater respect for your right to worship as you please. Radical Islam represents nothing of the same.
    What you leave behind you is a testament to your way of live. Bombed out and burn buildings, and ravaged landscape full of husks of cars and trucks. Families ripped apart, some literally, by the actions of the extremists.
    Do they speak for you as well? Or can you speak for yourself and answer this......can you live in peace with Christians who will not recognize Sharia Law?
     
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    They both worship god. Other than that, they are polar opposites of each other.

    Matthew 22:36"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" 37Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."

    Volume 1, Book 2, Number 26: Narrated Abu Huraira:
    Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause."
     
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    And you actually believe you have the right to "instruct" christians and frequently lash out with violence when they dont heed your instructions.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    ???? 9/11 hijackers were almost all Saudis. What does any of the above have to do with Saudi Arabia?
     
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    Thats a problem when your fighting people who think they are fighting for their god. They need to be decimated before they would even consider surrender
     
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    Not sure of your point. The Nazi party is made up of PEOPLE who follow the IDEOLOGY. Just as Muslims are PEOPLE who follow their ideology.
     
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    The US vs THEM mentality always proved to be productive.
     

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