Romney's Comments are Truthful Straight Talk the Nation needs to Hear

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  1. RtWngaFraud

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    No Sir....I was referring to America jobs...not Government. Nice attempt at changing the subject though. Republican Presidential candidate Mittens PinkSlip Romney thinks outsourcing American jobs is a great thing to do for the American people (HIS people). That 47% he refers to? Screw them. They're not rich like Mittens.
     
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    No Sir....I was referring to America jobs...not Government. Nice attempt at changing the subject though. Republican Presidential candidate Mittens PinkSlip Romney thinks outsourcing American jobs is a great thing to do for the American people (HIS people). That 47% he refers to? Screw them. They're not rich like Mittens.
     
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    So you would rather the entire company (or government) goes under and even more people are out of a job?
     
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    Please provide a link where Romney promotes outsourcing American jobs. The fact remains that folks who are able-bodied and receive free government money will likely not vote for a man who wants to promote a healthier economy and thus create more JOBS here in the US. Why work when you can sit on your fat Socialist ass and suck money from folks who actually WORK for a living?
     
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    Your reasons for why companies outsource is only partially correct. Companies that outsource every part of their business with nothing else but cost control in mind will fail.
     
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    Do some people fail to realize that Romney will use different strategies as President of the United States than he did when trying to grow a private business?

    To be successful, he may have outsourced jobs for the good of an American company, but to be successful as President (and SUCCESS is the point), he has to keep jobs IN America, right? I'm confident that that's exactly what he would do, since that's what THIS job takes.
     
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    Spot on. And as you can see, the truth outrages liberals.
     
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    stupid thread as always from you. which is no surprise. considering Romney has earned the nickname FLIP FLOP by constantly lying all the time changing his position on issues like I change socks like anybody should really be an idiot enough to think that Romney is ever truthful on anything.:grin::blahblah:
     
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    We The People keeping more of the Fruits of our Labor......doesnt entail The People getting anything for "Free"....

    While the Democrat Party exists today....soley because they bribe The People with "Free Sh't"......that other people paid for.
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    Please provide me with a link that proves Romney never had anything to do with outsourcing jobs, or one that suggests he thinks that is a bad idea. Any one will do.

    The people that actually "work" for a living...who are these people? Outsourcers? Cause that's what Romney is. What do you call work exactly? Shuffling numbers on a spread sheet and transferring (skimming) cash from account A to account B? Pumping up the balance sheets with crooked numbers? Transferring funds by phone maybe? You call that work? I call it crime.
     
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    Yes...I would. If they have to strip down payroll, strip down man hours, employ 2 people when you need 6...then yes...let it fail. Why drag the leftover folks along? You think you're going to scare them into producing? Good luck with that. You've only created enemies that work for you. Great accomplishment. Yes....let it go to hell. Maybe someone who wants to do it right will try again with the leftovers. Corporate rapists, raping a company for remaining profits, and pocketing the said profits for themselves while "revamping" the company, so everybody works harder, for less, with more hours, for less, only serves the fat cat. Let it fail....Roger that all the way.
     
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    Romneys comments will not get him elected, that is why he is double backing, its poetic that some poor mexican, illegal banquet server, caught his speech on his government subsidized Iphone, and gave it to Jimmy Carters socialist son, just in time to seal this years election deal.

    Many dependents or wards of the state, think the republicans stand with them, but it isn't true and they are on the wrong side.
     
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    Never mind the level of truth in Romney's remarks (and there is a lot of room for debate there). It was the contemptuous and derisive tone with which he delivered those remarks that was the real gaffe - Romney came across as derisive and dismissive of almost half of all Americans. Definitely someone who should be our nation's leader - not! That's why this hasn't played well with the public, who luckily for Romney usually have an attention span of about 2 weeks.
     
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    Well thankfully the law doesn't demand a business owner kill his business off for the benefit of others.
     
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    It's just the employees they kill off slowly. No chance of what you suggest though. Fat cats run from any kind of regulations so, you're safe.
     
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    The only "regulation" you want to see happen is the rich stripped of their wealth and a portion of it given to you. This economy rewards ideas, not labor done with your hands. We want idea men, not any more ants to do heavy lifting.
     
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    This "economy" is just a collectivist abstraction that rewards nothing.
     
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    Nice sound bite, but no substance. There is no better path to prosperity for a people than capitalism. The best way to increase poverty is to subsidize poverty. 1st rule of economics.
     
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    How about creating real jobs, paying a decent wage, that people can actually live on, rather than part-time crap (like I have to do). No, that would be far too simple...so let's just cut back on services, welfare and anything which doesn't affect the rich. So you cut back on welfare, services and what happens? Yes, even more people lose their jobs and are forced into poverty. Stunning logic there. Our glorious leader, David Cameron calls this 'making difficult decisions'. Difficult for whom, Dave; you and your cabinet made up of smug millionaires?
     
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    When the wealthy seek to be TOO wealthy... this is what happens; people suffer.
     
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    If that truth is clear, can we turn it around and say people donate to charities and those that receive it are dependent upon it? Therefore, the GOP forks over their money(to charities) so that people can have a life of charity dependence, right?
     
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    won't expect any better from close minded selfish conservatives..

    The 47% comment was an idiotic comment and americans will have it in their minds when they vote. Let's take a closer look at this 47%:

    First of all, only ignorants think this 47% are all victims and/or lazy bums living off welfare. A lot of these are retired people, the unemployed, students, vets, very poor people. What Romney said couldn't be more stupid and offensive when you really understand who makes up this 47%...

    So let's get the facts straight.... or just expand on the 47%.. Who are they? Before going into the #'s, consider this:

    1. Of this 47%, most pay payroll taxes, state and local taxes and in some cases other federal taxes. THEY DO PAY TAXES...
    2. A lot of the people who fall in this 47% are low income households. The payroll tax burden on these people is much higher than the rich; i.e., they pay a much higher percentage of their income in payroll taxes, obvioulsy. Most of them pay around 9% of their income in payroll taxes while the rich pay less than 1%..
    3. Romney stated: 'they are victimes, who think they are entitled to everything'. The reality is that few of these people consider themselves as entitled takers because they paid taxes in the past (seniors), will pay taxes in the future (students), or already pay payroll taxes on subsistance-level income.
    4. Most of the ones who's federal income taxes are wiped out by tax deductions and credits are working poor and elderly
    5. The main reason some don't pay income taxes is TAX BRACKETS... yes simply TAX BRACKETS.. something both republicans and democrats have supported.
    6. 93% of this group make less than 50k/year.
    7. A portion of this group also pay no payroll taxes - earning less than 20k and elderly (who have contributed to payroll taxes all their life)
    8. There are 4,000 millionaires in this 47%


    Of the 47%:

    22% - Elderly.
    61% - pay payroll taxes (more as a % of income than rich)
    17% - jobless, students, people with disabilities

    So why are conservative republicans posting ignorant threads like these? and misrepresening this 47% as lazy victims living off the government? when they know it's a big lie?

    1. Are those 4,000 millionaires paying no income taxes victims?
    2. Are the hard working americans earning incomes around or below the subsitence level victims? that truck driver who works 10 hours a day? the hard working farm workers making $/hr? cashiers at your local gorcery store? etc... All these hard working Americans paying payroll taxes victims? lazy?
    3. Students getting aid to better themselves victims?
    4. People working all day to feed their kids, only earning 40k victims? While millionaires are sailing in their 100 foot yachts drinking champaigne, chilling in their mansions, having cocktails while complaining about taxes and dissing these hard working americans?
    5. Eldery who worked hard and paid taxes all their life victims?
    6. People with disabilities who can't get a good job lazy bums living off welfare?

    convervative republicans, you all should be ashamed of yourselves for misrepresenting this 47% and backing up Romney's comments...
     
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    Do you honestly expect the simpletons who make up the Republican cohort to understand the above?
     
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    maybe we can educate a few of them and expand their horizons... I believe many vote republican cause they believe all of the nonsense about government being bad and all the lies about things like this '47%'.

    Romney made 14 million last year.... and we are listening to him? He knows nothing about the average hard working american and the poor who never had the opportunities he had. Easy to be born rich, having a succesful dad and given all the opportunities he has been given. If Romney would've been born out of two poor parents who hadn't instilled strong morals and principals, he probably would be a construction worker making 40k a year today. Who makes 14 million a year? less than 1% of americans? He thinks all Americans were born from two rich, loving parents with political influences and every American has had the priviledged life he was given (not earned).. and so he simply cannot relate to the less priviledged who find themselves in less fortunate circumstances for reasons outside their control.

    Romney doesn't get the average american, he gets the millionaires... Obama was poor and is more in tune with the working class... the poor, the middle class.
     

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