Romney ~ I only trust me

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  1. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    show me your source for this information
     
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    For one, he never said "disregard" as in "doesn't care about" those 47%. He said, very clearly to most intelligent people, that no matter what he does 47% of the country won't vote for him so he can't focus on or count on those people in regards to this presidential race. Those 47% are the ignorant masses I'm referring to. They vote because they see the letter (D) and they are told that the letter (D) is equal to free money. This is told to them by people with the letter (D) after their names. ;)
     
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    what he did was shoot himself in the foot
     
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    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    I don't understand that statement but whatever. I was merely stating that, as far as I can tell, there's little that Romney can do to totally screw up his election chances since most people aren't voting FOR him but rather, voting AGAINST Obama and Progressivism as a whole. That's not to say that I think that he'll win. It's just that I find it hard to believe that the folks that would vote for him right now, won't do so six weeks from now just because of something stupid that he may say or do or some new argument that Obama supporters may manage to drum up.
     
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    I disagree. What he did was cement the independent vote. Most independents are not a part of the 47%. And most independents don't like paying for freeloaders.
     
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    Like what? How will Romney muck up America more than what government ad infinitum/ad nauseum will bring us.
     
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    Boy thats some real spin lol. What he did was alienate and insult a large segment of the electorate. Many of whom would be potentially voting for him.
     
  8. dujac

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    like the elderly, working poor, disabled, combat military and such?


    romney doesn't even seem to be able to run a campaign
     
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    The guy has been successful in everything he has taken on. To believe he can't run a campaign is just stupid.
     
  10. Max Frost

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    Didn't he run for the republican nomination in 2008 and lose? And haven't some republicans most notably Peggy Noonan called his campaign incompetent and then she said later she was being kind when she used that word lol. On the 47% comment when asked if his campaign had not made big mistake he said don't blame the campaign they didn't say it I did.
     
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    I am talking about the real world. Not running for office. If you really want to sit there and try to compare success from Obama winning an election to a man who has turned around companies and created a multimillion dollar business and who created more jobs than Obama, there is no comparison. Obama is not successful compared to really anyone, and Romney makes him look like a guy trying to start a lemonade stand.
     
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    The elderly, working poor, and military aren't freeloaders. This has all been touched on before by me and others. Do a search. The thing is, the LIbs are spinning madly because they fear what is coming. ;)
     
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    The facts show this statement to be wrong. Have you bothered to look at any of the facts?
     
  14. Max Frost

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    But your problem is those are all groups that are in that 47% Romney called freeloaders and would never vote for him. In fact those groups are the bulk of the 47% and many of them would have been inclined to vote for Romney. Some still will but he lost some votes for sure.
     
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    And Obama has 2 degrees also, in political science and law.

    Like being president of Harvard Law Review, civil rights attorney, teaching constitutional law for years, serving in congress.

    Business and politics are two totally different things. Bernie Madoff was an extremely sucessful business man too.

    Nothing in that statement is true. Romney raised "fees" by hundreds of millions in his first year mostly on businesses. He raised the gas tax, created Romneycare, raised business taxes, reduced funding to cities and towns that resulted in property tax increases of 5%. He left office in mid 2007 budget year, the defecit for 2007 was 307 million. Heres a quote from Wiki:
    "The combined state and local tax burden in Massachusetts increased during Romney's governorship.[3] According to an analysis by the Tax Foundation, from 2002 to 2006 the average rate of state and local taxes in Massachusetts rose from 9.6 percent to 10.2 percent (compared to the national rate, which rose from 9.5 percent to 9.7 percent).[32]"

    I think we all can agree to believe in that one. Having a oneliner saying that does nothing.

    He doesnt have the power to repeal anything. Do you still believe what he said about repealing Obamacare on his first day? This of course coming from the man that created the model for it.

    Romney's record as Governor was horrible. His job growth was 47th out of 50 states, he fought against gun rights, raised taxes (or fees is it makes you feel better) created Romneycare, campaigned on lies by doing the opposite of what he said, and the list goes on. Romney will say whatever you want to hear in order to get in office, he is fake and a liar. He will get into office and do as he pleases and destroy the GOP for years to come. The GOP will be healthier and poised for future growth if he loses this election. If he wins, he will even alienate his own base completely. Most of you are already claiming to only vote for him because he isnt Obama, guess what...He actually is. He will take our money and spend it while giving to his special interests, he will erode our rights while pushing us toward more wars. Unfortunately we do not have a good candidate that has a chance of winning, I will be "wasting my vote" on Gary Johnson in the hopes that we can send a message to the leaders of the GOP that we are tired of these (*)(*)(*)(*)ty candidates. I really dont care who wins this election, Obama or Romney are both horrible choices to lead this country forward.
     
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    His "campaign" is hardly impressive. IMO, he doesn't inspire much confidence in his abilities so far - but at least he isn't a pos liberal.
     
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    You should take a piece of paper and write a list of things that you think makes someone a liberal, then do some research on Romney's time in government and see how many things match up. I think you just might find that he is a POS liberal.
     
  18. dujac

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    they're part of the 47% that romney spoke of


    the fact is that romney made me even more certain that he's not presidential material



    i'm not talking about beliefs, i'm talking about reality


    Peggy Noonan: Romney Campaign 'Incompetent,' Needs 'Intervention'

    Conservative columnist Peggy Noonan denounced Mitt Romney's presidential campaign in a blistering blog post on Tuesday.

    Noonan, who has been increasingly agitated over the GOP candidate's missteps --notably saying she thought he "looks like Richard Nixon" -- used the scandal over Romney's comments about the "47 percent" to give him a talking-to.

    Speaking about Romney's leaked fundraiser video, she wrote, "This is not how big leaders talk, it's how shallow campaign operatives talk."

    Noonan said that the misstep was indicative of a broader rot within the campaign:

    It's time to admit the Romney campaign is an incompetent one. It's not big, it's not brave, it's not thoughtfully tackling great issues. It's always been too small for the moment. All the activists, party supporters and big donors should be pushing for change. People want to focus on who at the top is least constructive and most responsible. Fine, but Mitt Romney is no puppet: He chooses who to listen to. An intervention is in order. "Mitt, this isn't working."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/19/peggy-noonan-romney-incompetent_n_1896332.html
     

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