Nope, Theres no connection between Communism and Atheists....

Of course it is.

Because the far left believes in a bearded man up in the sky that sacrificed himself to himself to convince himself to change his own rules.

 

Socialism and communism are both forms of Marxism.

Communism is the ultimate goal but libs will settle for socialism in the interim.

 

Absurd. The Romanovs and the Russian Orthodox church walked hand-in-hand in controlling and exploiting the masses. The Ching Dynasty and Buddhists did too, to a degree. And George and the Church of England were essentially one controlling authority.

They rejected the monarchy and national church, just as we did. But to our Founder's credit, they had some faith in us, and let us decide for ourselves, while at the same time utterly banning church control of the government.

Commies were different, thinking they knew so well that they should decide for everyone. Bad call. Thus I'm pro choice, on religion, abortion, guns, and most else, within reasonable limits. Religions cannot make pedophilia a sacrament. Assault weapons may go too far for civilian use. And late term abortions need to be in rare circumstances, where the mother's life is at risk, IMO.

 

I think the militant atheist left - including Marxists such as those in the Soviet Union or other communist states - see Jesus as a threat to their influence.

So they not only do not believe - it matters very much to them that no one else believe either.

 

Sshhh, They're a little to busy now fighting between left right good bad God Satan to understand the correlation.

 

You can say that again!!

 

Because part of communist ideology is that there can be no religion. Its written plain as day

"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness."

 

Christians certainly don't but I'm not so sure about the Muslims.

Otherwise I think there are some points of agreement between us in your post.

 

How would Jesus be a threat to their influence?

The American Taliban uses Jesus all the time to further their statist causes, whether it be killing 140,000 innocent civilians over seas or denying homosexuals basic human rights here at home.

 

As opposed to the bearded piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) Karl Marx never had a job, mooched off everyone he knew, and got his babysitter pregnant.

 

I couldn't care less.

The Founding Fathers owned slaves. Does that mean their idea were not valid?

Oops!

 

Yeah, no. You are right that Communism is the end point after socialism, but socialism is the end point of capitalism. But I'm not sure what you mean by them both being Marxist.

 

It means we dont have a cult of personality around a man like communists do.

 

So you admit that 'jesus' is a myth? Bravo

Admitting 'jesus' is a myth is the 1st step to recovery

 

Liars are always threatened by the truth.

I wish Christians had as much influence in America as you accuse them of.

I doubt if 10% of the career politicians in Washington DC attend church every week and some of them are probably faking it like Obama does.

So the US foreign policy that you hate so much as little to do with Christ.

As for denying people with the homosexual birth defect their "civil rights" that is something that most Christians approve of.

But the old Soviet Union did not tolerate homosexuals or gay marriage either and it hated Christians as much as the lefties in this country do.

Blame human nature that is just creeped out by freaks for the almost universal disapproval of gays found in most cultures.

 

Marxism has never been opposed vehemently to Christianity.

You are right that it has been opposed to the church pretty much from the beginning considering that the major churches had all these ideas about Divine Right of Kings and how peasants should suffer bravely as opposed to trying to change the system.

 

Have you ever paid any attention to anything I have written on religion on this forum? Not everyone has to be a dick about their faith or lack there of.

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Yes it was because Christianity is so bad with divine right that the Chicoms killed so many monks. Jesus christ think before you post.

 

Lol

Just stroll through PF, conservatives worship the Founding Fathers.

 

So pointing out that using your own logic, jesus doesn't exist is beng dick? Truth hurts doesn't it?

 

The Christian churches in China were used by the Empress and later the (not)Republic of China government to provide bureaucrats and tax collection among other services that Communist saw as oppressive.

 

Complete and utter nonsense, per usual.

But , don't take MY word for it..read what MARX HIMSELF HAD TO SAY ABOUT IT:

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1843/critique-hpr/intro.htm

 

You are mistaken.

Marxism was founded on hatred of the Christian Church.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism_and_religion

Marx:

"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo."

Lenin:

"Atheism is a natural and inseparable part of Marxism, of the theory and practice of scientific socialism."

 

Then allow me to bring you up to speed: Muslims, of which America has many, do not, nor does any other faith, of which I'm aware.

 

Acts 2: 44-45.

"And all who believed were together and had all things in common. And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need."

The bible supports communism. Could it be that China, Russia, etc. are actually practicing a corrupted version of communism, and that a more pure form of communism is what Jesus wants (i.e. the Christian ideal as practiced by the early Apostles)? In fact, communism as we see it in totalitarian countries is more of a straw man form of communism (see, communism is bad, because this tainted version of it is bad!)

 

The truth that God sacrificed Himself to Himself to convince Himself to change the Rules that He Himself put into place knowing full well that He would have to Sacrifice Himself to Himself to Convince Himself to change the Rules He Himself put into place?

Or putting a bunch of animals of a boat?

Which is why Bush said he was on a mission from God.

Denying basic human rights is hardly justifiable.