Nope, Theres no connection between Communism and Atheists....

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  1. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    What's your point? That communists are atheists too? BFD

    There are also progressive Christians. It really doesn't mean anything at all.
     
  2. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    So Progressives = Communists?
     
  3. GoneGoing

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    I think progressives are capitalists.
     
  4. Archie Goodwin

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    No. Progressives is the new kinder-gentler way of saying "Bleeding Heart Liberal," which derives from the days when Christians, especially Catholics, being all Christian and such, supported social welfare and other Christ-like stuff. More specifically, BHL derived from this popular image of Christ on Catholic literature:

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    Ironic; yeah?
     
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    Serlak2007 Well-Known Member

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    Is China communist??? If it is - why then US businesses relocate factories there? Are US capitalists communists too?
     
  6. Archie Goodwin

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    Yes. It's a one-party state with government owned industry, hospitals, etc. etc. But, and perhaps spurred by having to deal with Hong Kong and Macau, the administrative regions they attained, some free market reforms have been allowed, under tight governmental controls.
     
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    Well you're not wrong, it's just a hell of a lot easier to control people with low morals.
     
  8. Serlak2007

    Serlak2007 Well-Known Member

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    Oh I see, so Saudi Arabia is also a communist state since there is only one party (King's relatives) and it has strong hold on almost all industries.... Strangely China ranks Number 1 as business friendly country http://www.doingbusiness.org/~/medi...s/Annual-Reports/English/DB13-full-report.pdf , and USA is just 4th .... I guess those commies are very good at free market policies which is The Oxymoron of all oxymorons.....
     
  9. Archie Goodwin

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    No. It's a monarchy.
     
  10. GraspingforPeace

    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    And China is an authoritarian state capitalist system, just like all "Communist" countries are.
     
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    Serlak2007 Well-Known Member

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    Can you list how China different from Saudi Arabia besides that one is called monarchy and another communism?
     
  12. Archie Goodwin

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    Sure. In Saudi Arabia leadership is determined by monarchs screwing and having babies. In Communist China leadership is determined by the party.

    Further in a communist country, all or most is state owned and wages are set by the party bureaucrats, and it tends to really suck for most Chinese, about 80% of whom still live as peasant farmers.

    Saudi Arabia has numerous private enterprises, and more market-based wages and such, however, the monarch owns the country's resources, namely oil, but has been remarkably generous by offering many benefits for subjects who are Saudi born, which is kinda sweet, except for some tough Islamic laws governing behavior, not to mention foriegners are brought in for the crap work, and treated pretty miserably.
     
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    Those words together are contradictory.
     
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    Whatever. Stop buying Chinese crap until they clean up their act. Put a tariff on their products entering the USA. Problem solved.
     
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    Me either.
     
  16. camp_steveo

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    Atheists are going to destroy 'mercuh.

    smh
     
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    Except for all those communists and socialists who have openly fought against Marxist ideology since Marx was alive?

    Socialists and communists were both around before Marx was. Marxism is One theory regarding the approach to communism.

    Communism =/= Marxism
    Socialism =/= communism
     
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    Huh? North Korea is not a country, or not communist? Where ya going with that?
     
  19. GraspingforPeace

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    Marx's idea of Communism was a stateless utopia of workers democratically controlling the means of labor. The Communism that appeared in Soviet Union, China, and North Korea were born from personality cults centered around authoritarians. That is why Stalin was so unprepared for the invasion by Nazi Germany; though they disagreed on some ideological differences, Stalin saw a commonality in the institutionalized brutality and the single minded nature of Germany's regime.
     
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    FrankCapua Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly.
     
  21. Archie Goodwin

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    Oh; you're channeling Marx. Gotcha.

    Sorry, I was over here in the real world talking about stuff that is. Please forgive me.
     
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    We should arm the opposition in China. If they're going to attack us in cyberspace, then there needs to be some blowback.
     
  23. GraspingforPeace

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    The Soviet Union's Communist Party was no more communist than the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic republic.
     
  24. Archie Goodwin

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    No sweat, were not United either. Don't get too caught up in the name.
     
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    Since atheism isn't really an Ism at all, but rather a label made up by theists to discuss a lack of belief in their gods, it's absolute nonsense to claim that there is any necessary connection between these things.

    However, I understand the need of theists to try and establish that link. In your mind, it helps vilify atheists and the entire concept of atheism. Oh, those atheists are all murderers! That, or it's just a trolling attempt in response to atheists who attack your theism. Or both.
     

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