Kermit Gosnell, MD

Gee I forgot...tell me this last time and I won't ask again. Not that hard to just type yes or no, is it?

ARE you in favor of legalizing late term abortion to give women free choice to their bodies? It should not matter to anyone how many women would take this law up and actually do it...but should it be an option. Canada has no laws restricting abortion and I am told by other pro-abort posters here that...that is the way we should go. Do you agree....yes or no?

 

What business is it of yours or anyone else to dictate to women by denying them the right of choice to decide what they want to do with their body...in this case their pregnancy? Probably not many women would take this right up....but the fact being is your position is all based on privacy...the rights and choices of the woman to be able to DECIDE FOR HERSELF...the path in which HER life will go. If you as a pro-choicer want to deny her this RIGHT....then you enslave her and make her a prisoner with no rights to her body. You say...well she has so many months to make up her mind...she should know. But how is that your business? Shouldn't a woman know back in week 12 what she wants to do? Pasithea is the ONLY pro-abort here who gets this and is not a hypocrite. Oddly he won't say a word to any of you about your positions. Those who deny a woman for any reason the right to her body to determine if she wants to carry the pregnancy to term...their position is hypocritical. They are doing to the woman...what they say I AM DOING BY WANTING ABORTION ILLEGAL. Why is that ok?

 

It's the actual liberals, as opposed to your wacky claims that our nutty conservative mainstream media is actually somehow "liberal".

You lying about me doesn't make me a hypocrite. It just makes you a liar.

For the same reason dentists aren't subjected to the same level of regulation as hospitals.

More people die from dental procedures than legal abortion. You're obviously lying when you claim to care about safety. If you weren't lying, you'd be consistent about applying your safety regulations to every facility that does minor surgery, instead of singling out abortion clinics.

 

There is a tension between personal autonomy (a component element of individual liberty) and the possibility of abortion being murder which prevents me from approving of abortion. What my post was responding to was govt. mandated ultrasounds which are an improper intrusion into personal autonomy.

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Maybe.

 

I think so little of your post that I'm going to respond to it with just a citation to an article:

http://www.nationalreview.com/content/media-after-gosnell

 

We'll see if your word is any good.

I think if the Kermit Gosnell case proves anything, it's that late term abortion laws don't work.

 

Because it is.....does that bother you?

Why is your position of controlling women like cattle OK?


Please note: I didn't alter your post.

 

And yet Gosnell is one of the best examples of why abortion should remain legal. It is so the procedures can be properly oversighted to ensure an adequate level of care. Oversight cannot happen if abortion is illegal

And in this day and age making abortion illegal would not just be counterproductive it would be useless - RU487 is very easy to source over the internet

 

So you are saying that RU487 could not be a banned substance?
Banning abortion would be very productive. If abortion had not been legal...how many babies do you think would have been born out of the 55 million reported abortions? Some pro-aborts here on this forum say, that abortions legality does not matter because the same number of women will abort. So if that is the case....why did we need Roe made legal? Gosnell did late term abortions. They came to him the same way women came to Dr. Tiller. Not all clinics do illegal abortions.

The thing that would make cases like Gosnells go away is if late elective term abortion was legal...like in Canada. Would you be in favor of this?

 

So I have no right to want to deny a woman an early term abortion....because of my morality and the medical information that I have read....but YOU think you have the right to do what you tell me I can't. LMAO

CAttle?

Why do you hate women? Why do you want to deny women the right to choose?

Could you answer that one for me? Why?

 

AND YOU STILL AVOIDED ANSWERING.
YES OR NO...DO YOU BELIEVE OUR LAWS SHOULD CHANGE....THAT WOMEN SHOULD BE ALLOWED CHOICE IN CHOOSING TO GET A LATE TERM ABORTION.

This yes or no....is bothering you...why?

Just yes and no...and i won't ask again.

Forget gosnell.....yes or no...should it be legal in Your opinion.

 

Posted both posts so it can shown that the second post has nothing to do with the first and neither have been altered.

 

Abortion is one of the least regulated industries in America. The oil industry has far more regulatory oversight than the abortion industry.

I'm not normally in favor of more government oversight, but one would think with medical procedures routinely being done on vulnerable little patients who cannot give their informed consent...

 

Worth noting: the MD next to Kermit the Gosnell's name actually stands for "Murderous (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bag."

 

Why is your position of controlling unborn children as if they were like honey baked hams OK?

 

Or that the open tolerance of abortion quickly degenerates down a dark path...

If we can kill at 24 weeks, why not 28 weeks? It's a slippery slope. Inside versus outside the womb, really not a big difference.

This doctor routinely killed babies for a living, most of them legally. The only thing stopping him from killing them outside of the womb was a little technicality in the law. Any moral/ethical inhibitions had long since been desensitized.

 

and yet after 40 years that "slope" has not been descended down, roe vs wade has pretty much remained as is, apart from the anti-choice brigade trying to bring it down .. Has there been anything promoted to increase the viability point higher .. no. So you response here is just the usual hyperbole.

You can't see that it is irrelevant how many fetuses he aborted legally, and how do you know it was just a technicality that stopped him killing outside the womb .. I mean isn't that "little technicality" that stops you killing DS & mixed race babies .. The onlt difference between you and Gosnell is that he did kill, you just promote it.

 

Oh! Please!! There are acres of compliance standards that should have been applied

 

LOL! The queen of not answering questions demands an answer! LOL!

And "Forget gosnell"?? DUH! That's the TOPIC........are you trying to hijack the thread?

 

reading some of the details about this abortion clinic, one wonders how on EARTH someone could claim to be prowoman and NOT be appalled at how women are being treated at these clinics. As long as there are people out there screaming "NO RESTRICTIONS" there will be women dying or being made infertile by hacks like this.

the abortion rights people do own this, it is a direct result of their obsession with 'women's reproductive rights' that has made politicians scared to question abortion facilities. I have heard that nail salons in Philidelphia are inspected and regulated more heavily than abortion clinics.

 

the media isn't covering this for two reasons...one it doesn't fit their Progressive agenda but also because they are scared of the rabid Flukes of the women's lib movement, knowing that they will protest and boycott and carry on if one bad word is spoken about abortion...just like people here, they will justify and deny "that has nothing to do with abortion!"..knowing full well that if no woman had died, that abortion clinic would STILL be open, and people here would still demand full access to abortion, regardless of the age of the 'fetus'...I know I have seen people here defending late term abortions; as long as it was only babies being killed it was fine what this guy was doing.

 

I'm sorry you're another one who can't find the remote for your TV. Just the other day I saw full coverage of the Gosnell trial and details on a national network....
But if you want to pretend it isn't covered that is your CHOICE.


Have you heard that there was a bombing at the Boston Marathon???? Better turn on that TV ....



Why aren't you all enraged about the guy who slit the throats of his three daughters? Why are you screaming about him???

Why aren't you all upset over the other murders around the country? The world? Murders are happening everywhere.....are you constantly enraged?

GOOD!

 

http://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2012/03/24/what-happens-when-there-is-no-abortion-law/

Remember, Canada has no abortion laws.

 

Interesting that you think you KNOW this.

If there was ever a non-excuse that is one of the most ridiculous ever stated.

 

Yes its all irrelevant to the position that advocates and celebrates the right to kill...even throughout nine months. THAT IS YOUR SIDES POSITION IS IT NOT?