Part 6 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Mitt Ryan

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    Quote Posted by WhatNow!? on pg. 14 #132 of Part 3

    Oh, excUUUUse me...don't believers say that god created everything? Yes , they do. god created humans, he did a lousy job...they're not perfect and NONE, NONE, of them asked to be put here...so now this Magic Guy wants to punish everyone, even innocent good people....he sounds like some evil bum...can't he accept responsibility for his own actions....he blames us?
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    That's right none of us asked to be put here but we were by God because He created us and so He owns everyone of us.

    And you are wrong that He wants to punish everyone, Scripture tells us that He wants everyone to be saved.

    "I urge you, first of all, to pray for all people. Ask God to help them; intercede on their behalf, and give thanks for them. Pray this way for kings and all who are in authority so that we can live peaceful and quiet lives marked by godliness and dignity. This is good and pleases God our Savior, who wants everyone to be saved and to understand the truth." 1 Timothy 2:1-4 NLT

    Lastly, He is not responsible for our actions, He created us to live as free will agents and so everyone is responsible for their own actions, whether it be good or bad.
     
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    No, that is not true that the bible is full of contradictions. It is just that atheists such as yourself are suffering from this condition called misinterprelitus...lol

    Anything misunderstood can be explained in a truthful logical manner to make it understandable and thus eliminating the false impression of something being contradictory.

    Example, many skeptics (atheists) have called the Gospels of the New Testament as being contradictory with each other, but it is really not the case. Although some of the authors might differ in their explanation of certain events, it doesn't mean there is contradiction.

    It is merely because they are explaining events as they saw it in their own perspective. Just imagine if all the writers had wrote their Gospels very similar to almost being exact with one another.

    The skeptics of the bible would not be yelling out "contradictions" but would be yelling out "collusions"...lol
     
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    Quote Posted by AlphaOmega on pg. 14 #135 of Part 3

    Was todays meteorite impact an act from gods hand or not?
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    This is really the first real tough question I have encountered. It is so tough that I can't answer it...sorry!
     
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    You couldn't answer mine, either.
     
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    Quote Posted by WhatsNow!? on pg. 14 #136 of Part 3

    When it gets real bad for WHO ? 20% of the population? 56% , 75%...


    Got news for ya, it HAS BEEN really really bad for lots of people already!

    When is it reallyreally bad? When it is bad for YOU?
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    When it really bad for the entire world, Jesus will return.

    Scripture tells us, "Don't let anyone mislead you, for many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Messiah', and saying, 'The time has come!' But don't believe them. And when you hear of wars and insurrections, don't panic. Yes, these things must take place first, but the end won't follow immediately." Then He added, "Nation will go to war against nation, kingdom against kingdom. There will be great earthquakes, and there will be famines and plagues in many lands, and there will be terrifying things and great miraculous signs from heaven." Luke 21:8-11 NLT

    "And there will be strange signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. People will be terrified at what they see coming upon the earth, for the powers in the heavens will be shaken. Then everyone will see the Son of Man coming on a cloud with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen stand and look up, for your salvation is near!" NLT Luke 21:25-28 NLT
     
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    I'll pose a couple of questions;

    First, why can't man live in peace and realize his potential?

    Second, when was the bible written and why?
     
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    Where is your question? The only thing I have seen from you was a comment made and not a question posed. A question usually has one of these at the end of the sentence.....?....yeah that's right it has a question mark.

    But perhaps you did pose a question somewhere and I just didn't see it. If you did, tell me what page it is on.
     
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    I'm going to go into this a little deeper. God cannot be met, God is experienced by those who have attained the divine within them. With Jesus God ceased to be simply an outside Force, but One Who dwells in our hearts. :pray:
     
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    Okay let's look at it this way. Scripture is revelation by God, but God's revelation didn't only come to those who had written the 'Word', but also to those who decided on which books were correct, and which ones were not. These men had proven their holiness, or rather God gave the world proof of their holiness, so how could the Bible not be accurate? To deny their holiness in one aspect, such as the books of the Bible they compiled, is to deny their holiness in all aspects. And to deny their holiness in all aspects, is to deny the existance of Christ. :pray:
     
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    It's because we are all afflicted with a condition called a sinful nature. We are in essence held in bondage to this sinful nature like slaves.
    And throughout the history of mankind we have seen the destructive power of our sinful nature.

    We are slaves to such undesirable human traits such as pridefulness, envy, hate, lust, greed, jealousy...etc.

    It is pretty much an impossible reality that mankind will eventually live in peace someday. As long as we are afflicted with a sinful nature, peace will never ever come to this world we live in.

    Look at all the hate that some of us have displayed on this thread alone. Anybody who embraces a belief that others don't embrace will be subjected to ridicule, harassment, disrespect... etc.

    To answer your 2nd question, the first writings of the bible were written approx. 3,500 yrs. ago by Moses. He wrote the first five books.
    The Bible may look like one book, but it is actually sixty-six books rolled into one. There are thirty-nine books that make up the Old Testament, and twenty-seven books that make up the New Testament. God used as many as forty authors over a time-period of many centuries to write the sixty-six books of the Bible. The book of Revelation which is the last book of the Bible was written approx. in the year A.D. 95.

    Lastly, to answer your 3rd question, basically the Bible was written because God wants each of us to experience a life that has meaning, direction, love, and peace. As God speaks His holy word to you through the Bible, do what you know He wants you to do---obey Him and you will surely be blessed by Him!
     
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    post #24
     
  12. Mitt Ryan

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    I gave you an answer on pg. 4, post #35.
     
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    It is common for those that have been subjected to mind control techniques to demonize anyone that has an opinion that conflicts with their religious belief system.
    I am not saying that this necessarily applies to you but demonizing the messenger does not yeild valid answers to tough questions. In fact it is a logical fallacy called Ad Hominum.

    Even if I was an athiest that would not make my claim wrong. The fact of the matter is that I a not an athiest.

    The mainstream Christian denominations are not composed of atheists either ( Orthodox, Catholic, and Lutheran - founding Protestant denomination).

    Each of the above Christian organizations admit there are contradictions in the Bible.

    Not only are there contradictions in the Bible, and certainly many that you have no response for but, the vast majority of Christanity disagrees with your position.

    One example is the path to heaven. Presumably this would be clear cut for certainly every Church claims that it is.

    You can prove this contradiction to yourself by answering this supposedly not so tough question.

    How does the Bible say one gains entrance into heaven. (Works vs Faith) ?
     
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    Sounds like Zeh Buddhism. This did not arrive with Jesus, at least according to the Bible. Genesis states that we are like Gods
     
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    You know very little about the history of the people that made the choices that led to the canon of scripture if you think they had proved their holiness to the world.
    Your naivete is stunning.
     
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    Your answer was that you could not answer the question, which is what I said originally: You can't answer my question.

    Probably no one can answer that question.

    But it is an interesting one, don't you think? Is this world somehow unique in that we needed to have the son of god tortured and killed in order to save us from sin, or did the same thing have to happen on all of god's worlds?
     
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    Anything, anything at all to back up your claims?
    How was constantine directed and proven holy?
     
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    So the RC church is wrong?
    Are they wrong on anything else? What if any?
    Is your religion derived from the RC church?
     
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    When we look at the genealogy of Christ in Luke 3, which is the genealogy from Mary’s side, we see that God takes Mary’s genealogy all the way back to Adam which means she, like every human being, was a descendant of Adam which carries the sinful Adamic nature.

    Scripture tells us, "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." Rom 3:23 KJV

    So based on Scripture I'd say that the RC church is wrong...wouldn't you?
     
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    Yeah, it is an interesting question...indeed!
     
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    There are a lot of stories that are unknown about Constantine the Great, such as how he followed an angel when outlining the borders of Constantinople, but that's not the important thing about him. His importance is that he called together all the bishops and had the First Ecumenical Council, that way Christian doctrine could be established and heresies eliminated. There were quite a few heresies then. :pray:
     
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    You don't know the experiences of those living outside of your own cultural environment, so what appears as being naive to you, is really a projection of your own ignorance.

    Anyway the Fathers/Saints of the Greek Church were not exactly swinging on trees. You forget they were living in the highly enlightened Hellenic era so everything was written down...in Greek of course. :angel:
     
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    So no link to a source? Just something that came to you in a dream?
     
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    It's very simple. Get down on your knees and say: :pray:

    Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Your Kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. Lead us not unto temptation but deliver us from evil. Amen.
     
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    How can I give you a link, it was something I read a long time ago, so stop being ridiculous. Either you believe I read it, or you don't. :angel:
     
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