Zimmerman Trial ~ (Monday July 1st)

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  1. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    Damn Zimmy is some kind of illiterate ... LOL
     
  2. Nunya D.

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    The Defense can still call back previous witnesses as long as the witness provides testimony previously not entered.
     
  3. Dasein

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    GZ states his intention to witnesses to restrain TM even after he'd been shot.

    GZ's mental state: Profiled, Pursued, Restrained.
     
  4. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    Ok, even I need a lunch recess after this rambling babbling Zimmy testimony *to get it to fit so you must acquit*

    LOL.
     
  5. Eighty Deuce

    Eighty Deuce New Member Past Donor

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    Well, what should he be referring to him as ? His claim is that M committed felony assault on him at that time. !!

    Can the Trayvonistas make a single valid point ? Or just all this nonsensical silly crap ?
     
  6. UniquePerspective

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    First of all, this case is no laughing matter. Secondly, I am not a TM supporter. I am simply offering my unbiased analysis. I have nothing at stake, no political affiliation, no racial motive, nor any reason other than justice.

    There is undeniable evidence that Zimmerman pursued Martin, including statements recorded by the police. The evidence does not show that Martin ever followed, or even approached, Zimmerman. In fact, Zimmerman's word is the only thing supporting that Martin ever approached him. It is absolutely, undeniable that Zimmerman pursued Martin, but it is unclear whether or not Martin ever followed Zimmerman.

    It would be "stupid" to open with that as an argument. At the beginning of trial, there could be no good of mentioning such a theory. However, as the case proceeds, the initial direction of it is likely to change many times. I offered a theory regarding the likelihood that Martin would have been embarrassed, angry, and more afraid based on Jeantel's comments that easily could be interpreted as teasing.

    Moreover, the report and Zimmerman's own account, indicates that Martin noticed he was being followed while Zimmerman was still in his vehicle. The report and Zimmerman's own account, also indicates that Martin looked into the vehicle. Zimmerman then exited the vehicle and continued to follow Martin.

    Considering that Martin looked into the vehicle, he was more likely to realize that the same person following him on foot was Zimmerman, or that worst case, he was being stalked by more than one person. It's also important to note that Zimmerman was in a civilian vehicle. Either when Martin recognized he was being stalked by the same individual on foot, or an additional person, he attempted to flee. Zimmerman continued in the direction of Martin.

    Furthermore, I did not cite "SYG" law. I referred to the act I described as an example of standing one's ground. I understand the confusion you may have experienced, but please know that I take particular care to clearly indicate a reference to statute such as quotations, capitalization, or the cute little abbreviations you seem to prefer.
     
  7. Nunya D.

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    Ummmm, "suspect" would be the correct terminology and there is nothing wrong with it's usage. Now, if GZ had called him the "prep", you might have a point.
     
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    Who said that or was it written in a statement?
     
  9. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Zimmerman's verbal and written statement extablishes exactly what
    self-defense requires.That he was ambushed and confronted By Trayvon.
    That upon being snuck-up by Trayvon heard himsay " you got a problem.You do Now "
    and then punched in the face.Fell back on the ground.Trayon got on top of
    Zimmerman and slammed his head into the pavement while George
    was attempting to keep his head from being hit.Trayvon also tried to
    keep George's mouth shut as he was yelling out for help.
    Trayvon telling George to " Shut the Fuch Up ! "
    when moments later as Trayvon eyed George's waist and saw gun
    in holster.Telling George " You gonna Die Tonight ... Mutha'Fucher ! "
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Um... the defense hasn't presented any testimony; it just SEEMS THAT WAY, since the prosecution's witnesses almost EVERY ONE, supported ZIMMERMAN's STORY.

    Hilarious.
     
  11. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    Martin *was looking into homes* so that's how Martin went from suspicious person to suspect ... yeah uh huh ...
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    Not relevant to the case and not a fact in evidence. What is relevant is that he WAS guilty of a crime just before he was shot.

    He was not stalking him, suggest you read Florida stalking law, and his actions vis-a-vis the request of the NEN dispatcher were perfectly reasonable and legal.

    Yes and lost Zimmerman and ran all the way back to the apartment where he could have simply gone inside and locked the door. He choose a different course of action.

    Zimmerman didn't know where Martin was in his attempt to observe and tell the dispatcher where he ran to AS HE WAS REQUESTED TO DO.

    No he didn't but if Martin was in such fear why didn't he call the police? Why didn't he seek refuge in the apartment behind the locked door and call the police or his father? Why did he return to the T junction and confront Zimmerman?

    See above and explain who they were consistent with a person in fear.

    You have no proof he did and based on the fact that Zimmerman had no idea where he was how did he continue a pursuit?

    Her testimony will be discounted by the jury due to the fact it is filled with lies and baseless assertions in order to enhance it.

    Why would he have had a reason to evade Martin although you leave out the fact that he had rolled up his windows as Martin approached his truck, another act of someone obviously not in fear, to avoid a confrontation with him.

    It is also clear Martin lost Zimmerman for several minutes yet choose to go back and confront him.

    Why should he have fled?

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    She has no credibility and her statements are without any basis entirely prejudicial and bias'd. If the state calls her it will be another disaster like Dee Dee.
     
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    Definition of SUSPECT
    1 Regarded or deserving to be regarded with suspicion

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suspect
     
  14. Dasein

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    Written statement and he'll say it later in the re-enactment.
     
  15. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oooh. TrayvoniteMind Reading...again.

    Grass stains on MARTIN's KNEES; Zimmerman's BACK WET=who was on top of whom?

    Der....
     
  16. Bluesguy

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    To preempt the defense from calling him as their witness.
     
  17. Alfalfa

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    What's funny is that Z supporters don't see the significance of him calling TM a "suspect".

    I can assure you the pross does and will make it clear to the jury before this trial is over.
     
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    I mean,that's it Folks.Zimmerman explained to a tee what happened.
    Now he doesn't have to take the stand and explain what was going thru
    his mind.He wrote down he was in fear of his life.That Trayvon did see and was
    attempting to go for his gun when he said " You gonna Die Tonight MuthaFucher ! "
    Originally I got the quotes " You got a problem.You do now " confused with
    when Trayvon said " You gonna Die tonight MuthaFucher ".
     
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    That was the CORRECT term to use.

    Grass stains on MARTIN'S KNEES + Zimmerman's BACK WAS WET = What?

    That's what's "significant", and it was established by the PROSECUTION'S WITNESS, the first cop on the scene.
     
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    What was Martin "suspected" of? He was walking. Without Zimmerman's call, not even an officer would have had a right to detain Martin. In fact, Martin did not match any description of a criminal suspect, and was not seen by Zimmerman doing anything that would have supported a claim of probable cause or reasonable suspicion.
     
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    He appeared to be LOOKING INTO homes= behaving suspiciously , according to the EXPERIENCED neighborhood watch captain.
    No proof Zimmerman even TRIED to "detain" Martin.

    Plenty of proof Martin was ON TOP of Zimmerman.
     
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    GZ already stated TM was a suspect for "walking casually".
     
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    That is what suspect means.

    Suspect: regarded or deserving to be regarded with suspicion
     
  24. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    Yes that's when Zimmy went postal ... *We don't need you to do that* ... look at all the grave danger he was in ... hence escalate from suspicious person circling his wagon to suspect now fleeing.
     
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    George had only been NW for 90 days..

    Trayvon was wet too and had grass on him.
     
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