Nearly Every European Nation Limits Abortion to 12 Weeks, NOT 20

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  1. Mayor Snorkum

    Mayor Snorkum Banned

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    It's the zealots demanding that all babies be eligible for murder at any time, according to the wishes of the incubator.

    Is there any particular reason adult-sized women should not be treated like adults and expected to be held responsible for their personal choices like adults, or are you people always going to demand that babies pay the price for insisting that woman do not have the emotional maturity and intellectual ability to avoid actions that lead to pregnancy?

    In other words, why do you people insist on treating woman like irresponsible children who can never learn how to act like adults, and thus always be allowed to resort to murder to escape the consequences of their immature actions?
     
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    Is there something wrong with your reading comprehension? I did not ask where babies com from, but tell me aren't any better at this than to post emotional drivel and then when called on it deflect?
    High school debaters can do better.

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    Seriously, are you this ignorant or this is some form of subtle sarcasm?
    Never mind, I read your next post.
     
  3. Mayor Snorkum

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    You stated you didn't know where babies were murdered. Clearly babies don't come from anywhere if they're murdered before they're born.

    Was that too complicated for the typical baby-murdering champeeeen of "choice"?

    This isn't a high school debate society. Meanwhile, you're not dealing well when the fact of murder is pointed out.

    The Mayor's subtlety isn't for the Left to apprehend.
     
  4. Mayor Snorkum

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    ALL normal people realize the murdering babies is a bad idea.

    People who pretend that a woman's "choice" starts and stops with the murder of children can't be called "normal", not by any stretch of a healthy imagination.

    A woman's choice starts and stops with saying "no" to sexual practices that may lead to pregnancy. Her incompetence in the proper use of contraceptives is irrelevant. Stupid people make life altering choices all the time. Ask Trayvon Martin about his choice to engage in an unprovoked attack on what the racist called a "creepy ass cracker". Clearly life's choices have sometimes permanent consequences. Getting knocked up because someone is too ignorant to use contraceptives correctly is one of them.

    What's that about rape? Did the woman choose to carry a gun for self-defense? She has that right, in free countries. Did she exercise it? Then her rape isn't the baby's fault.

    In what civilized countries are rapists executed for their crime? None. Can a country be civilized if it allows the murder of a child that didn't exist when the rape that created him happened? No civilized country allows the wanton murder of it's youngest children under the cover of law.
     
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    Wow and you figured this out all by yourself?

    Yea the emotional tripe devoid of anything intelligent tends to be confusing, thanks for validating my point.

    Yet you can not even perform at that level.

    On the contrary I deal with it just fine, but you seem to start flailing when your lacking is pointed out.

    Perhaps the mayor could attempt to apprehend some better knowledge and understanding of the issue and then he could debate better than a high school freshman.
     
  6. Mayor Snorkum

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    Yeah, keep trying.

    Someday you'll remember get firsthand one of the lessons of history that you refused to learn the easy way.

    Societies that view murder as a solution to "problems" apply that particular solution to more and more problems as time goes on.

    Presently, in the United States, the Left has murdered over 40,000,000 babies, and now the Left is claiming that we MUST accept and forgive millions and millions of illegal alien criminals....because the babies murdered by the Left don't exist to pay taxes into the Ponzi Schemes the Left has been creating to buy votes these last 80 years.

    What happens next, as the Left becomes inured to using murder to alleviate problems? When the elderly become too decrepit to work, they consume more resources than they create. We've all seen the hateful video of George Bernard Shaw saying that there should be a board in front of which everyone would be periodically required to stand and justify their existence. Medical rationing is a reality in all countries practicing the barbarity of socialized medicine. Elder-cide is only a few steps past that.

    What are you going to do when they come for you?
     
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    I do not have to. You are the one on the outside wondering why you are excluded. Perhaps if some day you will try to swallow some rational thinking and stop regurgitating ignorant mantra you too will be able to partake in society.

    You have no clue what you are spewing. By any metric developed countries have better health records than the US. So go on and live in your ignorant bigoted world, I am just glad it is not part of mine.
     
  8. Mayor Snorkum

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    No, you don't have to. There is, after all, no argument that supports the murder of children.

    When did the murder of babies become a party?

    The Mayor is the source of rational thought, he doesn't need to swallow what he provides others.

    They do?

    What about the number of female deaths from breast cancer per capita, US to Not-So-Great Britain?

    How about the number of Canadians that used to come to the US for medical care, before King Obama wrecked what the US had?

    Why do you people pretend that someone else is supposed to foot the bills you create for yourself?
     
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    Since no one argued that you are welcome to remain outside in your imaginary world.

    Party? Are you drunk?

    Ah, and finally the truth. The delusion, referring to yourself in the third person. Seek help...

    It is quite obvious what you have swallowed.

    Yes they do. To attempt to educate yourself.

    What about them?

    How about providing some proof instead of this tripe?

    And the ignorance just keeps flowing. Can you name a single instance in which people purposely wanted to have a kidney transplant, for example?
     
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    That would be great if the bills weren't so ridiculous. It used to be people paid for the doctors directly, then it started getting ridiculous ($25 for one aspirin), and people couldn't afford it.

    We could if doctors/hospitals/pharmacies didn't feel that they each deserve to be mega millionaires.

    Even America can make mistakes. Obamacare is supposed to put an end to unfair charging, like Medicare did to senior's health care. Most seniors (Republican/Democrat) don't want anyone messing with their Medicare.
     
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    That is an exaggeration of the truth.

    I agree that after a certain period of time abortions should not be allowed just for the mere purpose of not wanting it, but there should be exceptions when it poses a risk to the woman's life, or is a result of rape or incest. However, most of the bills being introduced do not make exceptions for these cases. I think that is a mistake.

    Abortions on demand are already prohibited in most states after 26 weeks. I don't have a problem with the 20 week limit, but I do when it comes to a woman's life at risk, or cases of rape or incest. These situations don't fit into your category that women are acting irresponsible and therefore your comment does not apply to them. Why are there no exceptions being made in these bills?
     
  12. PeachyKeen

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    Wow, I did not know that. I thought they were more progressive than us especially on this issue.
     

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