Nearly Every European Nation Limits Abortion to 12 Weeks, NOT 20

Obamacare is a farce, and I think it bankrupt our country, thats true.

I just figured you love obamacare, and youd want uninsured babies to have access, but I guess not.

 

Read your title and the article you posted. Your title doesn't say most and the 20 week bans that have been proposed here in the United States are not 20 weeks with exceptions. They are 20 weeks hard cut off. I personally would not mind a system with a 20 week ban for anything other than health of the mother, rape, and incest. I think if someone proposed something like that the majority of the public would go for it particularly if everyone took an oath that that was the last time we would discuss this abortion business. But please stop with this deceptive stuff. The laws in Europe are very diverse. They also have legitimate appeals processes so you can plead your case to someone other than a right wing lunatic male. They also have much better sex education programs and social safety nets. If you are going to force a woman to carry a baby to term then you need to put you money where your mouth is and make sure that woman gets proper obstetrical care at your expense and that kid has food, heat, housing, and school including preschool. If you don't want to give all that on your dime please stop comparing yourself to Europe.

 

This is NOT true.

Th morning after pill prevents FERTILIZATION.

One more bunch of BS from the anti-sex Right.

 

Sure it would be a "good thing", if these bills were for that purpose.

The Righties add a million hypocritical requirements for ONLY abortion clinics to follow, and then gave the clinics BARELY 10 DAYS NOTICE to virtuallly rebuild their facilities, then the anti-abortionists CROW about the clinics "failing the new standards"!

What lying hypocrisy! And of course we have the willing shills around the country passing on these lies in their propaganda campaign.

Business as usual for the "religious" women-hating Right!

From the Grok's OWN link:

http://www.jillstanek.com/2011/06/b...spections-do-not-meet-licensing-requirements/

 

What I don't get is the country has gotten on fine with allowing doctors without admitting privileges since 1973. Why the sudden need?

 

Would you please elaborate on that (links)? Obama passed Obamacare, so how would he want to deny people Obamacare?

 

How Does it Work?

The emergency contraceptive/morning-after pill has three modes of action (as does the regular birth control pill); that is, it can work in one of three ways:

The normal menstrual cycle is altered, delaying ovulation; or
Ovulation is inhibited, meaning the egg will not be released from the ovary;
It can irritate the lining of the uterus (endometrium) so as to inhibit implantation.

Keep in mind that fertilization (the union of female ovum, or egg, and male sperm) occurs in the fallopian tube and that fertilization marks the beginning of a new human life - and the beginning of the pregnancy. The newly created child then travels down the fallopian tube to the uterus (womb) where he or she implants. Implantation is necessary for the new child to receive nourishment from the mother and continue developing. The journey from the fallopian tube to the womb takes between five and seven days during which pregnancy cannot be readily detected.

Therefore, if a woman ingests emergency contraception after fertilization has taken place, the third mode of action can occur. The lining of the uterus can be altered causing the woman's body to reject the living human embryo, making implantation impossible and the child will die. This result is called a chemical abortion; therefore emergency contraception is an abortifacient.

 

This thread is particularly hilarious AND ironic!

Since "doing what Europe does" is suddenly the Right Wing "ideal", we should also adopt most of Europe's practice of GOVERNMENT PAYING FOR THE ABORTION!

What pathetic idiocy from the Religious Right.

 

Why don't you give the obsolete and discredited anti-abortion source for this BS? Of course you don't....

Current reputable scientific and medical sources show that fertilized eggs are NOT "prevented from implanting".

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/may/does-plan-b-cause-abortion.html

"We" except for Bestviewedwithcable, of course.

 

No, youve got it backwards.

democrat progressive communists love europe and they think european socialism, thats bankrupting europe, is super awesome. Conservatives disagree with almost everything european socialism does....

Now that democrats know europe doesnt dig partial birth abortions, and abortions past 12 weeks maybe theyll reconsider their bloodlust for the unborn.

 

Just pointing out that what the Abortion as Sport crowd is trying to depict as "radical" such as the Texas abortion reform bill, is anything but.

 

I'm not sure how your erroneous notion regarding a New Yorker's ability to purchase 'Big Gulp' relates, but If anyone regards the state as being too intrusive into private matters already, why promote its being even more intrusive and dictating from the moment of conception? You are not making any sense.

Your hysterical rhetoric does not conceal your agenda. You actually want the state to dictate to women from the moment a microscopic zygote appears in her womb. You want to deprive that woman of her right to decide what to then do with her body. You want politicians to aid and abet you by bringing the coercive power of the state to bear, because you cannot impose your will upon others without such intimidation.

 

Thats false.

America needs more Americans to fund social security and medicare. We aborted 55 million taxpayers since roe v wade, and now democrat progressive communists wanna bring in a bunch of illegals to make up for all the American babies they killed.

Its about our country, not the selfishness of the irresponsible.

 

I could be happy with this:

 

No, you would deny a woman her right to decide what to do with a zygote/embryo/fœtus in her womb.

You would have the State dictate your extremist notion to her, instead.

No attempted diversion can conceal your transparent agenda.

 

No people who kill their children disgust me, personally, and on a national level.

If you really wanna kill your baby, I cant stop you.

 

so you support Abortion as long as it's in the first 12 weeks?

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people that want to force children and rape victims to give birth to their rapist disgust me too

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Luxenbourg's law was further refined in September, 2012:

 

Oh, Id be happier if they limited it to just them. They only make up 2% of abortions.

Sadly, theyre always held up as some kinda excuse to slaughter the children of the irresponsibly selfish.

 

Still sounds reasonable enough to me. The bit I'd be least comfortable with, is that underage girls do not need to have a parents' approval.

 

Yes, you think being sufficiently dramatic with hyperbolic rhetoric will conceal your agenda.

Try to be honest and direct in responding to a cogent, simple, albeit revelatory, question:

If a rape victim discovered she was pregnant and decided to terminate a pregnancy at 4 weeks into gestation, would you have the State intrude to deny her that right?

 

That's always a sensitive area but ruining a girl's life because her parents are fanatical and/or irresponsible is cruel. Ideally, there is an amicable relationship, but that is clearly not always the case.

 

That's true. But I have to wonder if such a decision, while clearly 'good intentioned', allows for other unintended/undesirable situations. The two of greatest concern (in my mind) would be a rapist going free because the underage girl isn't required to tell anyone who the father is, or an underage girl realizing that she basically has free license to be irresponsible.

 

Unfortunately, rates of abortion don't change whether it's legal or not. Being illegal just means more hurt/dead mothers.

 

Viability of baby means when they can live outside the womb. Less than 1% of abortions is performed to save the mothers life.