Few women will qualify for land combat

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...l-qualify-for-land-combat-loop/#ixzz2tst6lm5t

Howl long will it be until physical standards are indeed lowered? Or until the sexist practice of giving two different recruits two different standards?

http://nation.time.com/2014/01/02/m...equirement-for-female-recruits/#ixzz2tswadkcI

 

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Don't para-troopers have a height requirement. In other words, you can't be a para-trooper if you're too tall. Since men are generally taller than women shouldn't men be allowed to sue the army just as these women are allowed to sue their employer because they're too small???

 

Don't lower the standards. They are right, if a female cant lift a 95 lb artillery round (or other physical requirements) then they shouldnt be there.

Men and woman are not the same. Some things are better for men to do...and some things are better for woman. Some things both can do equally well.

 

All the women I knew when I was young could quite easily lift a 100 pound sack of grain and 150 pound bales of hay...repeatedly.

Men and women are not the same but the women soldiers who died in places like Iraq and Afghanistan are just as dead as the men. Having your legs or half your head shot off is just as crippling for a woman as it is for a man.

Women throughout history have been in combat...one was even decorated for heroism in the Civil War.

Women are citizens. Citizens have the right to fight for their country.

If an INDIVIDUAL, female OR male, can't meet the standards then they shouldn't get the job.

But with all the suicides, deaths, and less and less signing up they may have to drop standards for everyone especially if there's people who still want to profit from war....they'll throw anyone in front of the cannons.

 

I totally agree with everything you said. I come from a military family. Sister, brother, father and mother are all military.

I am not demeaning anyone who has died for our country. I was simply stating that they shouldnt lower the standards so more WOMAN can fight in combat.

I should have said it as you did..any man OR woman that cannot make the standards should not be able to get the job.

But the post was about woman so I kept with that line of thinking. I have met many a woman who could do more physically than some men.

Long story short....keep the standards as they are. They are the standards for a reason. Any man OR woman who can pass them, I iwill proudly pray for your safe return.

 

Well you don't know that many women then

One out of how many billion? I think there's about as many women in history serving on the front lines as their are young earth creationists who are in MENSA.

Don't get me wrong - there's exceptions to every rule. Problem is you're trying to deny or "brush over the fact" that these are indeed exceptions just because the Church of Political Correctness tells you to. Even though you probably really know it's true - you feel obligated to deny what everyone knows its true (but is afraid to say) out of fear of heresy against the "Church".

That's right, but the physical standards should be the same for both sexes - lowering them in the name of affirmative action is discriminatory

 

How long until physical standards are lowered? For the Army, probably when they complete their review of the physical requirements for each MOS and they have an excuse to lower standards until they get the right percentage of women to qualify. And contra to your article that the military is worried about the Obama administration trying to lower standards, I think it's more likely that the Pentagon will try to do it over the objections of Combat Brigade leaders. There are a lot of people in the Pentagon who have careers wrapped around this and will make sure the policy "succeeds" regardless of what that does to readiness.

 

It should be fully based on the capabilities of the individual to meet the required standards REGARDLESS of gender.

 

That's the entire point - the Obama admin's considering setting lower requirements specifically for female enlistees in special forces - this is Affirmative Action and a form of reverse-discrimination

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That's the entire point - the Obama admin's considering setting lower requirements specifically for female enlistees in special forces - this is Affirmative Action and a form of reverse-discrimination

 

Well, ya but you know how EQUALITY scares little men who have been told all their coccooned lives that to have a woman be equal at or better at something than they are is something shameful..because they have been told to view women as something "less than" males. and it's convenient for them to believe that so that no matter how bad they are at something they can demonize a woman for being able to do it...


Then there are idiots who think that because women figting in wars are exceptions so they don't count, completely ignorant of the fact that they were exceptions because they were banned from serving! OF course they were "exceptions"...If they hadn't been banned they wouldn't have BEEN "exceptions"..

If women are denied the right to fight for their country they should NOT have to pay equal taxes.

 

The problem is that these men you refer to who have been told all their lives that to have a woman be equal or better at something is shameful do not exist.

 

Of course family courts look at fathers as being equally capable of caring for children as mothers??? :sarcasm

 

Uncle Ferd says, "Womens always wantin' to fight...

Head of SpecOps Command: Decision on Women in Combat Imminent
Sep 16, 2015 | The commander of U.S. Special Operations Command said today that his recommendation on women serving in direct-action combat units would be ready in days.

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Early Tests Show Female Airmen Can Perform Many SpecOps Tasks: General
Sep 15, 2015 | Preliminary tests show female airmen can perform many of the same battlefield tasks as their male counterparts in Special Operations positions, a general said.

 

Marines want to reserve some combat jobs away from women...

Marines to Seek to Close Some Combat Jobs to Women, Officials Say
Sep 18, 2015 | WASHINGTON -- The Marine Corps is expected to ask that women not be allowed to compete for several front-line combat jobs, inflaming tensions between Navy and Marine leaders, U.S. officials say.

 

Part of me says let them fight. But if they are captured or otherwise hurt. Don't cry about it. Just like men.
Another part of me says war is for men to handle. But that's because I was brought up in a better time and place.

 

Congressman against womens in combat...

Congressman Demands Navy Secretary's Resignation over Women in Combat
Sep 18, 2015 | A Republican congressman is demanding the resignation of the Navy’s secretary for his plans to open Marine Corps infantry positions to women despite a study that found that all-male units outperformed units with females on such tasks.

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Marines See Benefits to Women in Combat, as Well as Risks
Sep 24, 2015 | The Marine Corps general in charge of implementing a Pentagon plan to open ground combat jobs to women concluded there are benefits as well as significant risks to the proposal, and he outlined ways to eliminate most of an anticipated weakening of combat effectiveness during the transition, according to a document leaked Wednesday to The San Diego Union-Tribune.

 

I was reading some opinions about this SOCNET. One retired old fellow was arguing from experience and quite convincingly against having mixed units in combat, though felt that women certainly did have a place in the military. He brought up similar concerns to those already stated above about women not being capable of the same level of performance, and he brought up the issue of sexual relations also, basically saying that human nature would always lead to difficulties in that situation. I'm sure he was right, too.

 

Women who get to independent simply stop being attracted to men. Men should be threatened.

 

Total load of garbled rubbish.

 

I'm sorry you feel that way

 

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned...

Lawmaker Seeks Proof Women 'Deserved to Pass' Ranger School
Sep 23, 2015 | An Oklahoma congressman and combat veteran has demanded that the Secretary of the Army produce paperwork documenting the performance of the women who recently graduated Ranger School.

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West Point Women Request Lawmaker's Ranger Records
Sep 25, 2015 | WASHINGTON -- A group of female West Point graduates has turned the tables on Oklahoma congressman Steve Russell, asking the Army to turn over his Ranger records.

 

Was the study rigged?...

New Details Question Validity of Marine Corps Gender-Integration Study
Oct 02, 2015 | Emerging details of the U.S. Marine Corps study on the integration of women into direct-action combat jobs raise questions about the validity of its findings and whether the study was engineered to keep women out of infantry units, critics say.

 

Troops glad Carter gonna put womens inna foxhole with `em...

Carter Sounds Nearly Ready to Open Combat Jobs to Women
Oct 07, 2015 -- Defense Secretary Ash Carter sounded like he's nearly made up his mind about opening all combat jobs to women, as he told U.S. troops in Sicily on Tuesday that limiting his search for qualified military candidates to just half the population would be "crazy."

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Womens gets to get in combat...

Pentagon chief to military: Open all combat jobs to women
December 3, 2015 WASHINGTON (AP) — After three years of study and debate, Defense Secretary Ash Carter ordered the military Thursday to open all military jobs to women, removing the final barriers that kept women from serving in combat, including the most dangerous and grueling commando posts.