Cheney: Obama is the worst President of my lifetime Part II

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  1. bill hill

    bill hill Member

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    Cheney would be correct..
     
  2. Destroy the ZOG

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    I don't need to read the entire thread to say that Cheney and Obama are like peas in a pod. When the Freemason fraternity are shown the door the United States can prosper again. People who aren't even politicians governing that country. They think they have been called by God and form cliques a world away from the United States - they are the people who should be stopped. They will do anything themselves such as murder or war crimes then try and shift the blame on to the outspoken one who isn't one of them as a character assassination ploy instead of just taking no for an answer then moving on. When the Freemasons are taken out of power, trust me, your country will be a hell of a lot better off.
     
  3. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The simple fact is, like him or not, he is right.
     
  4. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Only if you have an extremely simplistic view of the world where the correlation of two variables necessarily and automatically implies a causal relationship between said variables.

    More educated people try to account for all the variables in a system before they make that kind of a leap.
     
  5. Cautiously Conservative

    Cautiously Conservative New Member Past Donor

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    LOL

    I love it when posters use the "more educated" meme, because it always indicates that they, themselves, are not among those ranks.
     
  6. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    I love it when posters ignore a solid refutation of their position because they have no way to respond other than to be evasive and snarky.

    FACT: Correlation is not causation.

    I learned that in junior high-school. I guess your teachers skipped that lesson?
     
  7. Tahuyaman

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    So, I quoted someone else. Like I said, if you disagree with what the other person said, take it up with them.

    At least now I got you to admit that I have never used the obsolete "misery index" to support my view that Obama is the most incompetent president in US history.

    My response in the post you keep harping on was a response to the last sentence in the comment. That's should have been quite obvious. Of course maybe the obvious is not as obvious to you as it is to most.
     
  8. Yosh Shmenge

    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    There are many reasons why Obama is considered America's worst president. This whole "misery index" nonsense is a side issue that is invalidated anyway by the way the Obama regime counts the unemployed. Get real.

    At this very moment Obama is kissing the butt of Iran (with this Nowruz business and a very bad nuclear deal), who recently once again pledged "death to America", and at the same time, he has been vehemently hostile to Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel, the main bulwark against the Iranian threat in the Middle East.

    So Obama is serving the nuclear ambitions of our enemy and, simultaneously, seeking to impede and meddle in the internal business of our biggest ally in the region. These are the actions of a very dangerous president.
     
  9. Tahuyaman

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    Yes, the perplexing focus on the misery index was a complete dodge from the main point.

    Obama has somehow managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Alienate allies and strengthen enemies.
     
  10. Cautiously Conservative

    Cautiously Conservative New Member Past Donor

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    You're the one who was insecure enough to start with the education stuff. At that point, you undermined all adult conversation. Now, you can talk to yourself because I debate adults only.
     
  11. Ethereal

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    You're just making excuses because you don't have a valid argument. Just because Carter's Presidency correlated with stagflation does not necessarily imply that his Presidency was the cause of stagflation. By placing the blame squarely on Carter, you are ignoring years of past policy from Democratic and Republican Presidents (LBJ and Nixon) whose massive war and social spending (Vietnam, Great Society, effective abolition of Bretton Woods) built up in the system over years and was unleashed in a wave of inflation and recession just as Carter became the President. Carter's response to this was to gradually deregulate key sectors of the economy like energy and transportation over time, which was a wise and balanced approach. Unfortunately for Carter, many of the positive effects of his reforms would take time to manifest themselves, just like the negative effects of LBJ's and Nixon's exorbitant spending took time to manifest themselves during Carter's Presidency. And I'm not saying Reagan shouldn't get any credit for the economic boom, I'm just saying that Carter should be given some of the credit for moving in what was largely the same direction as Reagan. But you have no valid rebuttal to any of my points or arguments, so you are running away and making excuses. Anyone can see that.
     
  12. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see. Why are then you, Obama and the Dems uniformly blaming Bush for all the wrong caused by recession clearly beyond his control?
     
  13. Ethereal

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    What makes you think that's what I'm doing?
     
  14. justonemorevoice

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    Oh, you mean like when the pubs here CONSTANTLY call the forum liberals low-information voters? Like that?
    /dismissed
     
  15. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why, your own posts, of course. You're saying that Carter was not really responsible for the stagnation the country experienced; by way of analogy, Bush was not really responsible for the recession the country endured.

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    They are.

    [video=youtube;mm1KOBMg1Y8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8[/video]
     
  16. Ethereal

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    And where did I say Bush was responsible for the recession?
     
  17. expatriate

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    Dutch.... do you really believe that there are not tons of youtube videos showing toothless, ignorant, republican voters? Are you really trying to suggest that idiots only reside on the left side of the aisle? Really????
     
  18. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You did not. However, if Carter is not responsible for the stagnation he handed over to Reagan, Bush is not really responsible for the recession he handed down to Obama. Right?
     
  19. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed. However, since the Party of the Victims (Democratic) is the party of the workers, the welfare recepients, the deprived, the uneducated and by definition, less informed, it follows that Democrats have lots more low information voters. Look how uniformly Democrats been Gruberized!
     
  20. expatriate

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    so... you are suggesting that there are no workers (do you work, by the way) or welfare recipients who are republican? no uneducated republicans, no uninformed republicans?

    Do you have any idea how silly you sound when you try to make that case?
     
  21. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I'm not suggesting that. It's just by definition, the Dems have lots more uneducated, uninformed, unemployed, un-(insert your own) low information voters.
     
  22. expatriate

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    by your "definition", perhaps. certainly not by any definition that is objectively determined. Again, when you say stupid stuff like that, you just paint yourself out to be a blind, uneducated, uninformed partisan hack. I am not sure that was the look your were going for.
     
  23. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Partisan, yes. Cynical, you betcha. Uneducated, uninformed, ha ha ha. I bet, I speak more languages than the public skrul classes you have finished :)
     
  24. expatriate

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    So you can display you partisan foolishness in more than one tongue? congratulations. Again.... to just assume that everyone on the other side of the political spectrum is ignorant and uneducated is... well.... nothing short of ignorant and educated. Just sayin'
     
  25. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you point out where I said ALL Democrats are ignorant and uneducated, I'll apololgize, this is clearly not the case. Otherwise, withdraw.
     

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