Can a right winger justify the Tea Party's birther hypocricy when it comes to Cruz ?

Oh so the right needs to answer for birthers hypocrisy. Nice.
That's like the left being asked to answer for Al Sharpton asking to raise taxes while he neglected his own. Answer for the progressive hypocrisy then. Fair is fair.
Or Obama talking about man made global warming while he flies all over the country to play golf on a jet that has one of the worlds largest carbon footprint. There is nothing but silence from the left.
Hell where is the left on monsanto polluting out waters?
Lol. The left is so quick to point out false hypocrisy while ignoring their own.

 

I've never said they are responsible for it. Never. To deny that some jumped on it with both feet is live in denial though.

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Still won't? Can't say I'm surprised. Both sides are full of it on some things.

 

Lol sorry I meant to add HB to that response.

 

Oh. Gotcha. Lol.

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orly_Taitz

Then there's the original California birther. I always crack up when I see her first name.

 

The Tea Party Responsible for it? Nope. Tea Party members running with the ball like they are trying to score the winning touchdown? Absolutely.

 

http://camajorityreport.com/meg-whitman-continues-to-cozy-up-to-tea-party-and-birther-movement/

Lol. More.

 

Truly don't care about birthers besides I showed you the birthers asking about Ted Cruz citizenship already. So where is the hypocrisy. They question Obama and now they questioned Cruz. Sounds straight forward to me. Show me the hypocrisy.
The only difference there is Cruz was straight forward while Obama wasn't. So maybe you don't see the onslaught of birthers questioning Cruz is because the question was asked by birthers and was answered right away. Not three years later.
So tell me. Where is the hypocrisy?
I proved that already.
Obama was questioned
Cruz was questioned.
Tell me why should I be upset about birthers when they stayed true to their beliefs.

 

Deflecting response noted -

 

I think the bar has been set. No one cares. But it will be interesting if the main street media turns into hypocrites....hounding Cruz's situation while dismissing Obama's.
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[video=youtube;D8Np_HS7JN8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8Np_HS7JN8[/video]

 

People like this shouldn't represent an entire political party anyway, though maybe the TP could have done more to reject those silly notions among their membership as well.

That's something every political party has in common, however: A need and desire to tolerate and even court extremist loons in order to swell their ranks. They just have to be careful not to go too far and end up falling on their faces for it.

 

My answer is at post 112.
The birthers did ask. Cruz didn't wait three years to address it like someone else. Squashed the birthers right away. So there will not have a large response because it was handled promptly. Obama could have done the same if he would have just tried.
So show me where we need to justify the birthers.
They questioned Obama and Cruz. Seems that they are and were being fair to both.

 

When the Obama birther thing started... I was curious about it. but he had an American mom... no matter where he was born, beit hawaii or kenya.... he is still a natural US Citizen.
But despite that legitamacy.... Obama is politically astute enough to recognize he still needs the uninformed voters that helped elect him to think he was born in Hawaii...

there were plenty of birthers who couldn't accept where he claimed he was born. I'm not 100% convinced... I just don't think it matters, so I don't worry about it.


However, it's no secret where Cruz was born. He's not hiding his birth records.... but the same reason Obama was eligible to run for POTUS... so is Cruz.


That won't stop the most staunch of democrat defenders of Obama's eligibility from becoming Cruz birther's now.




The Cruz/Obama birther issue just shows both parties are have loud hypocrits in their ranks. The loudest Obama Birthers now just say "Well, if Obama was allowed, illegally, Cruz can be too"

 

Show us where this is a Tea Party issue.

 

I'm right there with you. If Barack's baby mama is American that's all that really matters. Once he was elected, it no longer was relevant.

What always made me laugh is when they would scream "How can you think he's from Kenya???".

When his own wife was on a speaking trail going around saying Kenya was his home country.
When his own University had listed as "Kenyan".
When his own official birth certificate took forever to be presented (created?)

The only reason I even believe the Hawaii story is because of some birth announcement found in an old newspaper.


I think BCs should be a requirement of ballot inclusion.
Or at least have birth certs confirmed before the primaries.

 

To which of the more than 70 TEA party groups did it link? The Tea Party as it happens is not a monolithic group. By the way I don't care what Trump sas either but he is none-the -less the only birther anyone ever heard of.

 

All Cruz said was he listens to country music.
So that makes it music to kill Muslims by?
Is that what progressives find funny? Killing muslim jokes or belittling one of the largest genre of music today. Which one. Cause the progressive at MSNBC sure we're laughing. Not a one stop her and said wow that's kinda not funny joking about killing muslims.
Oh well another double standard by progressives.

 

It doesn't make you want to kill Muslims, it makes you want to kill Muslims, Blacks, latinos and gays as well as marry your sister

Most of those I've talked to are racist loons

No, the music makes them want to kill Muslims et al, and just about anyone else too. Their bigoted hatred of blacks is why they don't like Obama. TP's like being lied to and think the "middle class" an invention of pointy bearded professors and other treasonous groups, like people with IQ's over 70

 

The child of a US citizen is automatically a citizen from birth. My friend was born in Canada, and has never had to file any paperwork other than proving his mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth.

 

It's because Ted Cruz isn't half black.

 

There is no paperwork required for jus sanguinas, only the requirement that he/she live in the US for 5 years prior to age 16 (prior to 1978 ), or as the code now states

Only requires the citizen parent to have lived within the US prior to birth for a certain number of years, atleast 2 years after the age of 14.

The child is not automatically a citizen upon birth on foreign soil, the birth must be registered at the nearest US Consule and a Certificate of birth abroad must be issued. The child then receives citizenship through jus sanguinas, which is a conferred citizenship through US INA's, making the child a citizen via naturalization through the powers of Congress, since the child was born clearly outside US jurisdiction. Only a child born within US jurisdiction is considered a natural-born citizen, per Wong Kim Ark and Rogers v Bellei, and numerous prior cases that are cited within those 2 SCOTUS opinions. There is no opinion that has legal weight that you can point to that says that a child born outside US jurisdiction to a US Citizen is a natural-born citizen. Legal scholars are attempting to argue that one could be considered natural born if born to a citizen abroad, but they all admit that there is no case that clearly claims that and it is merely an assumption based on their own arguments.

8USC1401 (f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;

How can f be a citizen at birth if his parentage is unknown? It is merely assumed. What if it is found that the child was born in Canada? Mexico? That US assumption is then nullified and the child is not a citizen at birth as the title of 8USC1401 states. The heading of the USC is then misleading is it not? Also, nowhere in that code will it state the words or phrase "natural-born" citizen. So where does this idea of a child born to a US citizen anywhere is the world is a natural-born citizen?

 

I don't know, I'm on the fence about this one.
If it comes out that Cruz's grandmother says Ted was actually born in Kenya, I might become a birther!

 

We have all learned If you question Cruz's citizenship,

you are a Racist.

 

Actually all these leftwingers criticizing Cruz for everything under the sun are being hate-filled BIGOTS by their own definition (as initiated in 2008 with Obama) not racists. As I understand the leftwing 'rules' you are a hate filled racist if you criticize Black leftwing politicians (and ONLY Black leftwing politicians) but you are a hate filled bigot if you criticize any other ethnicity . . . well as long as it's a Left of Center politician of ethnicity. Weirdly it does not apply however to any Black or non-Black ethnicity whatsoever . . . as long as he or she is Right of Center. Weird, eh?