Pew first: Gun rights top gun control in major public opinion shift

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Well, it looks like the gun control push by the gun control crowd has totally backfired.

    This is refreshing news and I hope it continues.

    The only problem is that there are many states who have implemented unconstitutional gun laws that infringes on its citizens rights. These need to be overturned and the people's rights must be immediately restored.

    Pew first: Gun rights top gun control in major public opinion shift
     
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    Seeing this story makes me realize how little we actually get good news.

    Such a shame.
     
  3. nra37922

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    Dangerous world and folks are starting to face facts. Police cannot be everywhere so one needs to be able to take care of their loved ones and themselves. HATE it that it is spiraling down that way but it is what it is. .
     
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    As the populace becomes educated on and habituated to firearms, their irrational fear of firearms starts to diminish and is replaced by a healthy respect for a potentially life-saving tool.

    The best thing you can do to further the gun rights movement is to offer to take someone shooting. They will become a gun rights proponent overnight.
     
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    whatukno New Member

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    So, the terrorists have indeed won.

    SMH
     
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    crime is down cause abortion and birth control kept so many worthless punks from being born. If you're scared, you can leave any time, you know. Nobody is going to stop you. Go where its "safe", maybe in China, where most people think like you.
     
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    Liberals thought the had the public on their side. Oopsie daisy.
     
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    The Left -- in an utterly disgusting display of political opportunism in the face of a national tragedy -- did their very best to politicize the Sandy Hook massacre into a blatant push to begin the process of destroying the 2nd Amendment. At first, horrified past the point of rational thought many people jumped on the leftist anti-gun politically-based ideological push and became anti-gun. But then since then they've had time to think and to reassess sans the emotions stirred up by that national tragedy.

    They saw Ferguson become a hell hole on Earth BECAUSE leftists did their very best to ignite a race war for political and ideological reasons. They have witnessed an increase in feral packs of youths looking for victims. They have seen the Left do its very best to alienate average citizens from the nation's LEOs. They have had enough! Hence once again the Left is having a blatant political attempt at razing the Constitution . . . fail before their very eyes. Sweet!
     
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    Na, liberals haven't won anything. We are ok.
     
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    I'm of course talking about the people who constantly decry things like "If you try and take our guns, we're going to hunt you all down like the dogs you are and kill you, we will retake this country and make it into our own image!" stuff like that, that terrorism.

    It obviously worked. many of these people probably never had a gun in their entire lives, but now have to have one simply for self preservation against all the other people out there with guns. (and I'm not talking about the gang bangers with guns either) I'm talking about the people who actually openly say they want to violently overthrow this government. Actually telling us they want to shoot and kill their fellow countrymen for not capitulating to them on the gun issue.

    These are terrorists, and they have won. Good job America, and you think were going to do better with ISIS?
     
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    Its definitely 4/20.
     
  12. GeddonM3

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    LMAO wtf are you talking about? Nobody is forcing anyone to buy guns, nor is our safety threatened by people who agree with the second ammendment.

    Can I ask you a question, how many times have these "terrorists" gone and shot people up in the name of the 2nd amendment? Just curious as to what terrorists you are speaking of lol.
     
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    LOL, It's mostly the police they want to protect themselves from.
     
  14. whatukno

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    Of course our safety is threatened by these people, have you seen them at the gun range? A lot of these people have no idea how gun safety works. Half the time I'm like "yeah cool story bro, hey do you mind not pointing that thing at me for a second? Yeah, thanks, by the way, uh, get your finger away from the trigger till your ready to shoot (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)!"

    Well, first off there was Timothy McVeigh, kinda a big one there.

    Then you get all these mass killings, and many times we find out the shooter bought his guns legally. I mean for a while, it was a mass shooting nearly every week, and the pro gun crowd is all, "Meh, that's fine, good on them." Literally, can not give one rats ass about the innocent people mowed down by some nutcase with a gun. There solution? MORE GUNS! It's like getting brain freeze from eating ice cream too fast and trying to solve it by eating more ice cream.

    The Chapel Hill shooter, NRA member.

    And I know, it's huffenpuff

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/08/americans-anger-management-guns_n_7021192.html

    Nearly one in 10 U.S. adults have both a history of impulsive anger and access to a firearm, according to a new study by researchers from Duke, Harvard and Columbia universities. The researchers also found that 1.5 percent of adults with impulsive anger issues carry a gun.

    The study, published in Behavioral Sciences and the Law this month, analyzed data from 5,563 face-to-face and household interviews that were part of the National Comorbidity Study Replication, a Harvard-led survey conducted in the early 2000s. The survey assessed respondents’ mental health, including several questions about whether or not they had patterns of impulsive anger, how many guns they owned and whether or not they carried guns outside of the home (respondents who were headed to a target range or who carried a gun as part of their job were excluded).

    One of the most significant findings was the three-way association between individuals who owned multiple guns, carried a gun outside of the home and expressed a pattern of angry, impulsive behavior. Study participants who owned six or more guns were found to be four times more likely to carry guns outside of the home and to be in the high-risk anger group than participants who owned one firearm.


    So yeah, the terrorists have won, put up a statue of McVeigh at the entrance of the NRA headquarters, your martyr didn't die for nothing.
     
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    None of the gun owners I know have firearms in order to protect themselves from the police.
     
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    More liberal alternative reality. The VAST majority of people trust, respect, and support police officers. Its big brother they are worried about.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Yea I guess you got us there. How many people did he shoot, again? I forgot.
     
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    You think a progressive FAIL is a win?
     
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    Oh, yeah, sorry, my bad, huge difference between shooting people because of the 2nd Amendment, and blowing up half a building full of people and children because of the 2nd Amendment.
     
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    Not sure but I bet more shooting happen everyday by progressives than conservatives.
    Didn't one progressive just shoot himself in front of the White House?
     
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    Do you have any proof supporting your ridiculous assertion?
     
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    Me thinks you need to put down the coffee.

    Secondly, MCveigh didnt kill for gun rights, he killed because of the way the government handled the Branch Davidians.

    Once again, tell me how many times people have killed to specifically push the 2nd Amendment. Ok not some random NRA member having a bad day, but an actual person shooting because he is trying to bring attention to the 2nd Amendment.


    You do truly understand the meaning of the word terrorism correct?
     
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    http://articles.philly.com/1995-05-03/news/25671989_1_union-sun-journal-handwritten-letter-stun-guns

    On the back of the envelope is a National Rifle Association sticker with the message "I'm the NRA."

    "I strongly believe in a God-given right to self-defense," McVeigh wrote, questioning how people could defend themselves from attack with such restrictions.

    "It is a lie if we tell ourselves that the police can protect us everywhere, at all times," wrote McVeigh. "Firearms restrictions are bad enough, but now a woman can't even carry Mace in her purse?!?!"
     
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    Dude, there is a difference in believing in the 2nd Amendment and committing a terrorist action to bring attention to those beliefs. You said McVeigh bombed the FBI building for no other reason than his support for the 2nd Amendment. Either you are seriously lost on your facts or you are flat out lying. It is very well known McVeigh attacked the FBI building because of the way the government handled the Waco incident with the Branch Davidians, for christ sake he even made it a point to commit the act on the 2 year anniversary of the Waco Massacre.

    http://www.history.com/topics/oklahoma-city-bombing

    "McVeigh, Nichols and their associates were deeply radicalized by such events as the August 1992 shoot-out between federal agents and survivalist Randy Weaver at his Idaho cabin, in which Weaver’s wife and son were killed, and the April 19, 1993, inferno near Waco, Texas, in which 75 members of a Branch Davidian religious sect died. McVeigh planned an attack on the Murrah Building, which housed regional offices of such federal agencies as the Drug Enforcement Agency, the Secret Service and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives, the agency that had launched the initial raid on the Branch Davidian compound.

    On April 19, 1995, the two-year anniversary of the disastrous end to the Waco standoff, McVeigh parked a Ryder rental truck loaded with a diesel-fuel-fertilizer bomb outside the Murrah Building and fled. Minutes later, the massive bomb exploded."


    You can't just make up "facts" and expect educated people to believe them.
     
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    I never said anything of the sort, I said that he was a pro gun terrorist. Not that it was his only reason for doing so. And exactly why did the FBI raid the Branch Davidians again?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

    The Waco siege was a siege of a compound belonging to the religious group Branch Davidians by American federal and Texas state law enforcement and military between February 28 and April 19, 1993.[4] The Branch Davidians, a sect that separated in 1955 from the Seventh-day Adventist Church, was led by David Koresh and lived at Mount Carmel Center ranch in the community of Elk, Texas,[5][6][7] nine miles (14 kilometers) east-northeast of Waco. The group was suspected of weapons violations and a search and arrest warrant was obtained by the ATF.

    OH, that's right GUNS!

    So, as it turns out McVeigh really is a martyr for your cause, so, when are y'all going to be putting up his statue in front of the NRA HQ? I mean you should really honor one of your fallen heroes after all. Fighting against the evil gun grabbing government like that. He did what many of y'all threaten to do.

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