Why do you want to fill America up with non-whites?

LOL

I was talking about total immigration per nation. I was never talking about anything else. You are so concerned with being "right" you've completely lost track of the conversation. Sweden has never had more total immigrants per year than the US. Not even when the US was colonial probably.

 

No you didnt. Look at wht i first quoted. You talked about immigration rate. How silly are you going to make this before yoy admit youre wrong?

 

no, but we don't burn down cities because some pos got shot that NEEDED to be shot, either.

 

You don't have to, because the Justice System is set up to protect you.

 

it's set up to protect you too brutha! The attorney general is black, the president is black.. Don't you come here and claim that "da white man" is keeping a playa down. That's been (*)(*)(*)(*)ing ridiculous for decades, and even more so with Obama as pres.

 

apparently you aren't aware of both historic and current realities.

 

I know twice as much as you think you know.

 

If that statement is any indication, its clear you don't know what you don't know.

 

So I guess the Justice System changed the day that happened, well we can see that isn't the case.

Yea your right its something that is just in the heads of black folks. Kind of like when black folks were complaining about being lynched decades ago.

 

When black people were lynched, when there was segregation, when the white folks were genuinely racist in action, they had every right to complain. These days the pres is black, the attorney general is black, there is affirmative action everywhere for blacks, there are blacks in positions of power everywhere, there are anti-discrimination laws, and white society isn't anywhere near as racist as it has been. puh lease, blacks have it easy today!

 

Yep so that means racism is a thing of the past. Right.

Racism is not in your face like it was 50yrs ago, racism is more subtle in today's society. Hate to tell you this racism is still alive and well in this country.

 

There's always been racism, everywhere, yet you don't hear other people whine as much as blacks do even though blacks have it much better than many other groups. Yes, there might be racism, but to think that blacks are completely helpless just because da man is keeping them down is just ridiculous and pathetic. What you are saying is that blacks are completely unable to help themselves, and that they can only be helped by whites. Let me tell you that how well a group does doesn't just depend on how others treat them, it also depends on how that group by themselves act. There are plenty of other groups throughout history and the world that were more disliked by others and started in a worse condition that blacks in the USA today, and they've become successful. In light of that, the hopelessness of blacks seem pathetic.

 

Tell me which groups black folks have it better than in America.

.......and there is still racism.

Who made that claim?

I have never said that.

How do you think we have survived in this country for over 400yrs if we never help ourselves.

Give us a few examples of those folks.

 

You haven't survived (*)(*)(*)(*) for 400 years dummy - you're about as oppressd and discriminated against as I am.

You're no slave... Realize that.

I'm tired of your victimhood nonsense... Its over - quit riding the "we were slaves" nonsense...

Oh yeah white flogging progressives give you free crap and feel sorry for you and you roll with that..

"we the slaves"

hahaha..

If it matters I have dark skin because your "black people" thought raping your way through Sicily was "dope" in your language.

 

During the cold war, the difference in average income was greater between eastern and western europeans than between black and white americans. If I recall correctly. A stellar example of how this is all very blown out of proportion: american blacks are not among the least fortunate, but among the luckiest.

I believe you did. Would be nice if you didn't though, because it's a ridiculous and tiresome argument.

Then what are you saying? Why are you complaining so much about whites' supposed racism if it didn't matter?

The chinese and the jews. Blacks in america today are living much better than most in history have.

 

jewish people are white and so had and do have the "white privilege". the chinese were not brought here in chains, they migrated voluntarily. did i really need to explain that.

 

yet another reasons why the talk of "white privilege" is utterly ridiculous. Yes, they have white, or pale, skin as europeans, and they might be considered white today, but they certainly were not so a hundred years ago. Jews were regarded as a wholly different race, just as blacks. They were also considered inferior mind you.

*sigh* my god, aren't you ridiculous? please, keep your ignorant pretentiousness to yourself. If you did have any wit, you'd know that what was being asked for was examples of peoples who started off in america in worse conditions than blacks in america today.

When jews came to america, they came from europe where they had been discriminated against since forever, and even in america they were highly disliked by the population as a whole even though the legal discrimination was less than europe, but still very present. Jews were dirt poor, most of the comming from eastern europe, not knowing english and being regarded as as inferior race by america. To a large extent the same is true for the chinese, who came as poor peasants with no english, and who were subjected to many racist laws, which you surely must have heard of.

Point being, the chinese and jews did not come to america with a standard of living which was higher than most others in the world, they did not have any political respresentation or any positive discrimination. American blacks have all three today. Get some historical perspective and realise that blacks in america does not have much to complain about today.

 

There's also no such thing as "white culture", because whites come from a wide range of cultures with little in common - French don't consider themselves British, British don't consider themselves Irish, Irish don't consider themselves Russian, etc. People are bound much more by culture (nationality, ethnicity, religion, cultural values) than by skin color.

In America "black culture" refers to African-American culture, which is a small and cohesive subculture - and is much more equivalent to "white cultures" such as Irish Americans, Italian Americans, etc than to a "global white culture". There is no global "black culture" beyond what black supremacy groups like the New Black Panthers promote.

Countries and societies have never been defined by "race", they've been definite by culture. China and Japan might be "Asian" but they don't consider themselves to have anything else in common either.

Europeans fought and killed fellow "whites" in the Middle Ages simply because some were Catholic and others were Protestant; their religious (cultural) unity was much stronger than merely their similar levels of skin pigmentation.

What white nationalists are doing is trying to create a universal white culture, not preserve it since it never existed.

Race and skin color do not account for a huge discrepancy in DNA.

And as mentioned, other factors play a role in cohesiveness other than mere race. A Southern Redneck and a California hippie for example have very little in common despite being of the same color..Likewise a Black British man and a White British man would likely have more in common than with, a Black Haitian or a White Russian.

You want to pass laws imposing this on the country on the mere basis of race, so this isn't just about what individuals choose to do.

 

You are denying our national culture. Many things define our culture like baseball, basketball, apple pie, Elvis etc. But yeah we do have many separate cultures within America as well.

This is partially true. French culture is not very different from German culture. Most Europeans are similar culturally.

You are misrepresenting my belief.

I agree with you.

Right.

The word nation means "race."

We don't force any culture. We merely want to be left alone from the diversity warriors and let live.

A little difference in DNA is a huge difference. Do you know apes have 98 percent of the same DNA as humans?

Yes.

I just think the laws shouldn't favor diversity.

 

That's American culture, not "white culture".

A Frenchman considers himself "French", he doesn't consider himself "German" or "Russian".

Europeans have killed each other by the millions in past centuries, so "race" obviously had little do with their cohesiveness, their cultural differences is what they identified with.

1250-1300; Middle English < Latin n&#257;ti&#333;n- (stem of n&#257;ti&#333 birth, tribe, equivalent to n&#257;t (us) (past participle of n&#257;sc&#299; to be born) + -i&#333;n- -ion

No it means "birth" or "tribe"

White nationalism is defining culture on the basis of "race" rather than on shared cultural values.

I'm not talking about percentages, I'm talking about the actual practical effects of DNA differences in races.

Humans have developed over tens of thousands of years, and we genetically still have more in common with our hunter-gatherer ancestors than we do different, so whatever genetic changes have developed from racial lines are just a tiny speck on the evolutionary radar

 

Diversity is a concern regarding immigration, not race.

Immigrants refusing to culturally identify as Americans but retain their old national heritage is what the problem is. Black Americans are less assimilated in part due to the fact that their ancestors were slaves taken here against their will, and that they were 'pushed' into a second-class - so America shares part of the blame in the lack of black integration.

White nationalists however want to blur the lines between race, and nationality and culture - or argue that genetic differences in the races are what cause cultural differences, when I see little evidence for that, considering that all races developed from the same primitive ancestors (and human genetics have on the whole changed very little, even since humans first developed on earth)..

 

Americans aren't white?

Yeah.

They didn't kill each other because of race, that only happens in a diverse society.

Do you know of anyone killing someone of their own race because of their race? I don't.

They were fighting for dominance. Nothing new.

I am using dictionary.com and they have a more comprehensive answer than what you provided which backs me up.

No.

Its significant.

 

What do you mean?

That is one problem.

You've been trying to integrate blacks into this country for a long time. If it hasn't worked by now it cant. We are better setting them up in Africa.

How so?

Not all of us.

I simply don't believe diversity works.

 

Soviets and Nazis were both white, beyond that what else did they have in common?

I didn't say they killed each other because of race, I said that if "race" were such a strong factor in unity, they would've identified by shared race first, and by nationality second. But their nationality was stronger than their race.

White nationalists believe DNA differences prevent people of different races from being integrated, but I don't believe "race" is a very strong factor in this, I believe different cultural values and identities are.

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Up until about 60-70 years ago they've been intentionally prevented from integrating, so America shares the blame in this - by bringing them here but forcing them into their own second class, where they identify as blacks first, Americans second.

 

Many soviet leaders were Jews for a time.

But I see your point and agree with you. I want nothing to do with your white liberal social justice diversity warrior than I do with the blacks.

Yeah, of course. You should read white nationalist writer Lotthrap Stoddard who argued intense nationalism is bad for the white race. I am in agreement of opinion.

I do. Because blacks hang on to the culture they chose and resist conforming to what they see as a white culture.

Yes, that is part of it.