Why do you want to fill America up with non-whites?

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Super21, Jul 18, 2014.

  1. Matt84

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    Could have made that point at first.
     
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    I thought I was.
     
  3. Esau

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    heres my source for NY times and supreme court being the first to use the term AA

    http://www.jstor.org/stable/2962878?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

    you cannot speak for your entire nation, unfortunately. you are what you are not what someone tells you.
     
  4. Mr. Swedish Guy

    Mr. Swedish Guy New Member

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    Oh, yes. My ancestors might have lived in africa some tens if not hundred of thousand years ago, theirs, only a few hundred years ago. TOTALLY comparable! No I'm kidding, it's not, stop being ridiculous.

    Oh, they just came from there but they don't have roots there? What a clueless statement. Just what do you even think that means to begin with? And they went through the middle east you say? elaborate on how the transatlantic slave trade went via the middle east, please...
     
  5. Sadistic-Savior

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    It's arbitrary. Thats my point. You might as well argue whether or not you are whiter than someone in France or Spain or Britain.

    Do I have "roots" in Europe? My family has been in America almost 400 years. How long do you have to be away from the source before it is no longer considered "roots"?

    LOL, Europeans. Race is so binary to you people. It is one of the limitations of a mono-racial culture. You do not have our perspective.
     
  6. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    might as well argue that colours do not exist, because they exist on a spectrum. Need I point out how stupid that is?

    Yes, you have roots in europe, 400 years old. Are you denying the whole notion of people "having roots"? First of all, why deny such an obvious thing? Seems very stupid to do. And secondly, what would you call my relation to Sweden if I moved to the USA? what would you call my usa-born childrens' relation to sweden? What would you call that, if not "roots"?

    I'm quite sure your perspective, whatever it is, is stupid, so that doesn't bother me. Silly americans who think that they're some kind of amazing racial melting pot when in fact they've been one of the most racist countries in recent history.
     
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    Actually skin color more and more DOES exist on a spectrum. Multi-racial individuals are greatly increasing.

    If you moved to the US the relation is apparent. Where did your ancestors 400 years ago come from? Does every Swedish-identified person have ancestors going back 400+ years that all were originally from Sweden? I think not.

    Besides, why does it matter, and who cares, what plot of dirt someone came from. You are who you chose to be, and that's all that matters.

    Plus, you're no more qualified to speak of how things are in America than we are to speak of things in Sweden. In fact, life is even quite different depending where you're from in the US. Living in San Diego is quite different than living in Chicago, for example. This is probably true even for Sweden, even though it is tiny in comparison.
     
  8. Sadistic-Savior

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    So red and orange are the same color to you then? Good example.

    I'm denying that it's as objective as you imply. I have roots in both Europe and Africa. The difference is scale.

    Calling people stupid will not win you an argument on here. Just some advice. This is the internet...calling someone "stupid" is basically like shaking hands here.

    It's arbitrary...what I would call it is probably different from what you would call it. I know third generation Americans who do not identify at all with their European ancestors. I definitely don't identify with mine at all. Immigrants tend to assimilate here very quickly.

    I don't personally consider Europe to be my "roots". I have almost nothing in common with those people. The last person in my family to be born there was centuries ago.

    Of course you do. Everyone you disagree with is stupid. I got that. Might want to invest in a Thesaurus some time.

    ORLY? How many black leaders has Sweden elected so far? Have they elected any minorities at all in their entire history?
     
  9. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    The very fact that you use "multi-racial" necessitates that there be "mono-racial" too. So, there you go. Is it controversial to point out the glaringly obvious truth that there exist different races these days? That we don't all have the same skin colour?

    So then they just have roots from several countries. This is not very complicated at all.

    Why do people insist that there are value judgements attached to everything?! I never said it mattered, did I?

    We are both qualified to speak of other countries. Why wouldn't we be? That is different from me claiming to have an american perspective though. That would just be a lie.

    *facepalm* no... I made that example to ridicule your position... Thanks for confirming that the ridicule was well deserved.

    And the scale makes a difference. I never said it was objective. Just because it is arbitrary and subjective doesn't mean it exist. Can you draw an exact line between where "here" and "there" is? Does that mean they doesn't exist? Can you give a non-subjective definition of fat and thin? Does that mean they don't exist?

    Of course you don't think you have anything in common with europeans.. What should I expect of the average american who is so brainwashed with propaganda that is trying everything to conceal that the USA is a european off-shoot. USA is liberty, europe is oppresion, the USa is an immigrant nation, we are multicultural, lalalala.. No, stop that nonsense and just acknowledge that you are of the same western culture as europeans are. Were I to drop you in stockholm you would feel more at home than if I dropped you in bombay. End of story, stop denying the obvious.

    No, it's not really that simple. I could be polite to people who disagree with me, provided they are polite and don't make stupid arguments. You failed at the latter.

    Sweden was homogenous until 50 years ago. The USA has had a racially diverse population for all its history, and just ended legal racism about 50 years ago. Currently, there are the following minority persons in our government cabinet: Ardalan Shekarabi - public administration, Aida Hadzialic -secondary school, Ibrahim Baylan - Energy, Mehmet Kaplan - Housing, Alice Bah Kunke - Culture. Need I say anything more, or is it apparent what you just said is pure (*)(*)(*)(*)?
     
  10. Esau

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    Black Americans came from the ME. That's what they say also don't take my word for it
     
  11. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    are you.. Sure about that? Really? They didn't teach you anything about this in school, at all? People are not black in the middle east you know.
     
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    Glad we agree it is not objective.

    We havn't been the same for a long time. Our political systems make that abundantly clear if nothing else.

    You seem to be agreeing with me. You have had far less experience with other races than we have.

    How many non-white Prime ministers have you had so far?
     
  13. Esau

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    Am I what?
    Lol

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    In other words all he knows is what Europeans tell him
     
  14. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    Hmm, it seems that whatever it is you are suffering from makes it impossible for you to have a concept of degree.

    Less experience with discimination against them sure.

    How many black presidents have you had so far? Only 0.5 so far, since obama is half white. And you have as I said, had a diversy population since the birth of your country. It only took you people some 250 years to elect a half black president. wow. I didn't think you'd be stupid enough to bring that up.

    Can you even read?
     
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    Sorry, the government can't do that here in the US. We still have free speech here. Maybe you should try holding your breath.
     
  16. Esau

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    what are you even on about Mr Ancient AmericanswerewhitebecausecontemporaryAmericansarewhite?
     
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    you have to remember that swedes admire hitler.
     
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    I am in shock, and overwhelmed by the stupidity in this thread. I have nothing more to add.
     
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    Well they're generally progressives and they do this to prove to the world they're not racists when they're the biggest racists in the world.... They want mixed races - they don't mix races, they want people to 'pay their fair share in taxes' - they don't pay their fair share in taxes, they want illegal aliens in the US - they're unwilling to sponsor illegal aliens..

    When it comes to these morons they're unwilling to practice what they preach....

    You see, they have all these funky ideas, however they're only good when they apply to others - not themselves..

    Progressivism is a mental disorder....

    They want as many minorites here to prove they're morally superior to others, and all their ideas revolve around moral superiority...
     

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