Why do you want to fill America up with non-whites?

Don't you think that is long enough time to wait?

Should we endure their hell and just tolerate their race hate in the meantime until they "adapt?"

What do you suggest we should do to fix this problem?

 

That's bull(*)(*)(*)(*), I don't support affirmative action. I just refuse to blame blacks and their DNA exclusively, when Americans took them here against their will, and made them second class, with no attempt to integrate them into society. By doing so they encouraged them not to integrate.

I don't support immigration of foreigners who don't want to assimilate, and would like to repeal automatic citizenship on birth - but Americans need to own up to having created the problem they have today, by bringing blacks here as slaves, and still trying to prevent integration with Jim Crow after the fact.

 

What's bull(*)(*)(*)(*)?

You know I didn't say you supported affirmative action...

Am I doing that?

I just said that diverse societies are undesirable.

How much money have we spent on black integration? The Great Society programs cost billions.

I don't believe whites are to blame for blacks failing to integrate. Its solely the fault of the blacks and because of their differences from us. They don't want to integrate.

Me too.

yeah, we are better off separating. Trying to integrate them has failed.

Jim Crow was only in the South which was abolished in 1964. Generations of blacks have not been oppressed. They are only given advantages and privileges because of their race.

 

Bad "diversity" is when ethnicity coexist in a country but are not integrated and share no common unity, it is not a "race" issue.

 

I agree. We seem to agree but we just don't call it the same thing.

EDIT: btw, you seem to believe that we can have unity and be united. I don't. race is too big to overcome which is what Tom Jefferson said.

Nationalism is right. Nationalism is a group of people loving their country and being united. You said you are a libertarian if I am right and libertariasm is the antithesis of this.

 

Having friends within our own race if the reason for Affirmative Action? I thought is was because your lazy.

 

I wonder why, if black americans have it so bad here, that real Africans continue to immigrate here in droves, while I don't see any "African Americans" migrating over to Africa.

Over a million real Africans have came here since 1965, yet there is not a single country in Africa of the top 50 expat locations.

 

Funny how anti-affirmative action people have absolutely no problem with it (as they interpret it) for women, military personnel, the disabled, and religious minorities.

 

not sure why white racist slave owners wanted to do that, you will have to ask them....

btw

we are no more a white nation because the majority is white then we are a Christian nation cause the majority is Christian

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The classes you gave an example of don't have affirmative action equivalent, sorry. It is simply against the law to discriminate against them due to sex, physical capacity, or religious belief.

In the case of the disabled are you kidding me?

Our military literally put their lives on the line for this country every single day. That a guy who spent months dodging RPG fire in Fallujah is even in the same class as some dudes skin color that never did a damn thing is the height of insulting and ridiculous. Being black is a passive attribute, which has no bearing on anything. It's an even worse insult to those black americans who wear the uniform, and I have deep admiration for what they do.

Where else but america would they have it so good?

 

black americans are not the same as africans. thats like saying turks and finns are the same

 

Afro americans have roots in africa. Turks and finns have nothing AT ALL do to with eachother.

 

If you want to get technical, so do you. It's only a matter of scale.

Both genetically and culturally, black Americans are definitely different from Africans.

 

So you're saying that in the last couple hundred years they've somehow evolved on a genetically divergent path? sorry, that's not how evolution works.

 

Who was talking about evolution? Do you read what you are responding to? My statement had nothing to do with evolution.

 

If black americans are not africans then why do "african americans" self segratage themselves with this term?

Why then, do you keep complaining about the slave trade and your "ancestors" that came from africa? Why do white americans keep being compared with the dutch and european slave traders? If indeed black people are not africans, than white people in america are not english or dutch or whatever.

These are contradictory statements, it's either or.

I remember in the 90's it was all about "set my people free and let them go back to Africa". I see thats over with.

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You said they are genetically different than africans. Since 99% of the black people in this country are descended from the african slave trade, how would they be genetically different?

 

black americans dont have roots in africa, they came from there but they travelled from middle east to get there, so they have afro/asian roots to be precise.

 

whites gave them that name just like they gave them 100 other names.
you can call slavers whatever you want and so can i. if you would like to classify the dutch as non european im not going to cry about it, ok.

 

yeah I don't think so. While the term had been in use occassionally before, Jesse Jackson is the one who popularized it in the late 80's. I remember his push to reclassify using the term. There were big debates on it at the time.

You miss my point on the second part, or don't want to see it.

If the slaves taken from africa have nothing to do with blacks in america, then the slave traders that commited those crimes have nothing to do with whites in america.

You can't have it both ways.

 

i just did a little digging and it appears that the term AA was used in the NY times and the supreme court before jesse popularized it as you stated so its a term given by whites initially isnt it.
the people taken captive in west africa have their own identity. it is up to the whites to forge their own in that matter. its not my job to do that for them because i have my own history which is unique to me and i dont associate with that side of my family and i proclaim that.

 

Actually you can trace it back to a black run newspaper in Chicago but that's not really the point. Regardless of who said it first, it was black people who wanted to adopt it.

Ok so you're not guilty because you denounce that side of your family. I hearby denounce it for everyone else.

Now that none of us are guilty lets move on.

 

U.S. says they do. Your opinion is pointless. Those are just a few protected classes.

http://blink.ucsd.edu/HR/policies/affirmative/faq.html

Again, your opinion is not equal to the law. Sorry.

 

That's true, I stand corrected. I was under the assumption that affirmative action was only minority based.

Still, there should be a difference between those who have earned those benefits and those who are just born with a certain skin color. And yes, that is my opinion.

 

So I educate your ignorance on the law, and you come right back with " there should be a difference between those who have earned those benefits and those who are just born with a certain skin color".

You still see AA as only a racial entity. Unbelievable.

Is the sports team you hate the only team in that league/conference?

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You're clearly only against AA for racial minorities. You support it for all other classes. The definition of that is hypocrisy.

 

It's not hypocrisy at all.

Women and racial minorities have clearly been fully integrated into our society.

Those who are physically incapacitated deserve some form of help, regardless of skin color or gender.

Those who fight for our freedoms deserve benefits, regardless of skin color or gender.