Ted Cruz Knocks Liberal Reporter Question on Gay Rights Out of the Park! >MOD WARNING

Yes. Christians have that right, just as Jews, Muslims, etc. have that right as well. It is when they decide to let let their moral conduct dictate who can/can't do things like enter a public business.

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Should this be considered acceptable if the said person is acting out in accordance to their faith?

 

Yep. Answering a question with a question is indicative of stalling for time. He eventually answers the question and I'll give him points for the isis is killing homosexuals bait, that was well played, but I still don't like his answer. Marriage is indeed up to the states. Full faith and credit to Contracts state to state is not, neither is equal protection.

 

I agree. So you're OK if a baker doesn't want to participate in a gay wedding......or the photographer.

 

Sorry, I didn't realize Ted Cruz actually made points. I'll respond in the same format you used.

1. Since when did we measure importance of an issue by the number of people that it affects? Civil Rights should never be considered a minor issue. I happen to understand the importance of all the issues that you have listed, but you're ignoring the importance of this issue. No one is demonizing opposition for Ted Cruz, he's doing that all on his own. You're telling me that by asking him a simple question, a very, very simple question, the reporter was trying to demonize opposition? It's very easy to overlook/downplay issues that you don't care anything about.

2. Lets think about this for a second: we can't even talk about the issue of gay marriage (or lack thereof) in our own state but you'd much sooner try to get Ted Cruz to act upon countries in the Middle-east mistreating gays.

3. This isn't about Christian rights...don't make me laugh.

 

Too late.

I don't quite know how to respond to this, but I'll try:

That same sex couples wish to be included and treated equally by marriage law should tell you this- the last thing this is about is segregation.

Umm...I'd rather it be called what it is- marriage. There is no reason to call the same thing something different. BTW, we tried that with "civil unions", it was a massive failure and made no one happy, including the Religious Right. We've been over this before.

I honestly don't know why this bothers you. If this is a reason you're against SSM, it's a very weak reason. And it's more about you than anyone else.

 

You misread what I wrote. A christian INDIVIDUAL has the right to live as they will, and discriminate as they will. But a business, no matter who runs it, does not. Can you imagine IBM refusing to sell to churches because their CEO was an atheist? Or the opposite, IBM refusing to sell to a large gay organization because their CEO was a devout christian? No, I can't either. Capitalists don't turn down business unless they honestly can't handle it for whatever reason. Discrimination is not a good reason.

 

That baker or photographer is not IBM. They are individual business owners living their lives and trying to make a living. The reason why many of us that are self employed is because we want to live our lives as we see fit.

You're discriminating against THEM!!!

As a business owner myself I work with my clients closely.....if I don't like you I walk. Same thing with my clients, if they feel uncomfortable with me don't hire me.

 

They're still a business. And they have no more right to discriminate then IBM does.

 

What they don't understand most of us are in business so we don't have to answer to anyone, myself I'm in business so I can choose the people I want to work with, those that I can relate too. In most cases I know their entire family, kids, their lifestyle, their likes and dislikes. I work with my clients at very personal level. If we feel uncomfortable with each other it's not going to work for either one of us. To force a private business owner to do business against his or her will is immoral and IMO discriminatory.

What they gay community is doing is no different then religious right does by forcing their views onto society....and they are doing it by corrupting our civil liberties in process.

 

Does not matter. You have no right to make moral judgment on me or any other person....that in itself discriminatory.

My I suggest that society should embraces the culture difference instead of dictating what one view society should act and behave according to their wishes.

People of gay community is no different then any other religious fanatic imposing their moral views onto society. I view both and extremist.

I ask to be left alone so I can live my life according to my morals.....not your or anyone else. Can you accept that?

 

I also couldn't help noticing you cut out most of my post.

So I ask you does a gay person have a right to live their lives as they see fit?

And if so does a Christians have a right to live their lives as they see fit?

Why are you choosing one belief over the other? Is that not discriminatory?

 

So let's be clear. Knocking one out of the park means avoiding the question all together? Got it.
Getting Cruz to answer a question is like trying to nail jelly to the wall.

 

Poppycock.

Gays have the exact same rights as everyone else.

 

I was against electing Obama from the beginning, as I was horrified at the aspect of having a John McCain or Mitt Romney administration of usual suspects. Both parties are corrupt and work for the banks and the mega corporation. All that social baloney is just that baloney, and so far all I have heard from Ted is posturing a particular group to get agitated extremists to vote for an ideology of religion. How about some actual political issues? Some actual solutions to 40 years of crony capitalism? Nope these people won't even go there.

 

The laws and rituals of the Israelite, were established for the time of Moses and Jesus plainly believed that the Old Testament was both inspired and authoritative he did not believe that it merely had some nice stories and some inspirational bits. But to believe that something is inspired and accurate need not imply one takes it literally, and even Jesus didn't go to that degree.

Are you suggesting that we should start stoning people to death for crimes against the Sabbath? Because if you are you know the Sabbath is/was really on Saturday, and that would mean most of the planet would be eradicated on that One thing alone, not just the gays, adulterers, and those who disobey their parents or blaspheme the lords name, but most likely you and/or I as well.

 

Except the right to marry the person we love.

 

False, Gays can marry anyone of the opposite sex, just like everyone else in America.

 

Yea, they tried telling blacks that too when one wanted to marry a white person in Virginia back in the 60's

 

That was 55 years ago, and not relevant at all.

 

Do you know thee are still a number of states where gay people can be evicted from their rental homes just for being gay?
Can hetrosexual be evicted for being hetrosexual?