Elizabeth Warren to GOP: Did You Hit Your Head & Think You Woke Up in 1950s or 1890s?

That is the goal of pro-lifers and for the most Republicans.

So are you suggesting withdrawing federal funding from all organizations, or just the ones you don't happen to like?

Why? Don't you believe in people having the choice as to who, what, where and when their body is used?

Just as the videos themselves are nothing more than ludicrous, why, if as they say PP are "selling" fetal parts do they need to edit them. Everyone of these videos when seen in full has shown that PP is doing nothing illegal and have been edited to produce what they wanted.

 

She's just mad b/c they are not following the Dems edicts on how Republicans should act. Dems are megalomaniacs. They have to control everything, even the opposition. They claim to love cultural diversity, but only if they dictate what part of a culture to keep, and what to ban, like eating cats and dogs by Asians.

 

Repubs are megalomaniacs. They have to control everything especially women's reproductive tracts., . They claim to love cultural diversity, but only if they dictate what part of a culture to keep, and what to ban, like abortion.

 

Child birth is a matter of two people living inside of a society getting pregnant.
The new baby has the rights to become a full and immediate member of the community, by social agreement when the society was formed.

This is the meaning of the word "native."
A new baby is automatically a native of the community.

Women have somehow ushered in the idea that she alone has the total say about the baby, based upon the simple observation that she carries the father and mothers child during the pregnancy.
But the whole society is actually involved in this "native."

Thus native is a member prior to birth by agreement, and the whole community is affected by each ember including this new member.

Things like taxes and military obligations and now, health care, and such matters are depending upon this new member to receive and to contribute to the community.
That is the same deal as for all the existing members.

This idea that a woman can decide all things about this new member without the approval and cooperation of the whole community makes no sense, and is, in fact, a breach of the society.

 

Control of the women and men in regard to new babies is inherent in the Social Contract between the members from day one.

The new baby will go to school.
The new baby will be vacinated.
The new baby will serve in the Selective service at some point.
Etc.

 

I am at least the third person who has questioned the veracity of your 73 percent of black families are on welfare statistic. The actual percentage seems to be somewhere between 25 and 30 percent, which would mean that more than 70 percent are not on welfare. Please provide evidence of your claim, bearing in mind that the out of wedlock rate is not the same as the welfare rate.

 

I have no idea what dictionary you have been using, but from all the ones I have looked at native means -

Native - "a person born in a specified place or associated with a place by birth, whether subsequently resident there or not." - http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/native

Native - "born in a particular place

—used to refer to the place where a person was born and raised

: belonging to a person since birth or childhood" - http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/native

Native - " relating to or describing someone's country or place of birth or someone who was born in a particular country or place: " - http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/native

Even the legal definition of native disagrees with you.

Native - A natural-born subject or citizen ; a denizen by birth ; one who owes his domicile or citizenship to the fact of his birth within the country referred to. The term may also include one born abroad, if his parents were then citizens of the country, and not permanently residing in foreign parts. See U. S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 101) U. S. 049, 18 Sup. Ct 450, 42 L. Ed. 890; New llartlord v. Canaan, 54 Conn. 39, 5 Atl. 300. - http://thelawdictionary.org/native/


- Blacks Law Dictionary 9th Addition.

So I summarize that your definition of native is incorrect and being changed by you to suit the agenda.

 

""This idea"" ... (FACT)..""" that a woman can decide ............ without the approval and cooperation of the whole community...."""""


is what really angers the Anti-Choice/Anti-Woman crowd

 

If a "fetus" is in distress, does a doctor have a hippocratic obligation to render service? What are they harvesting fetus parts for? Fetal transplant? Since they aren't people according to some... what benefit do their parts have?

 

If you've read my postings you know I don't follow that line. That's more of a church issue.

 

It may be a generalized stance for most conservatives and/or republicans (that they are against abortion), that does not change the point. Abortion is not the actual issue at hand and your comment that it is their "goal" is nothing more than conjecture.

You withdraw federal funding from organizations in which there are laws in place to protect federal funding from being used for specific reasons. And there is a notable condescension from your comments which is partly why many people (including liberals) can't stand some liberals. Where do you get off thinking that you have some moral superiority?

I absolutely believe that people should be able to do whatever they want with their own body... and in America, there is very little that truly stops that. My stance on abortion does not remove the option for women to abort their child, it only does so legally. Just like now, as long as you have the means, you are fully capable of removing your own arm if you wish. 'But then we will be back in the "hanger" days'.... so what. Perhaps if people actually had the moral integrity that they spew for other people, they would acknowledge the result of a decision they made and raise it... or at the very least, put the child up for adoption. It is ridiculous that the argument for killing a child is that it is inconvenient for the mother whether socially or economically. And if you truly believe your comment in its utmost fundamental way... (Don't you believe in people having the choice as to who, what, where and when their body is used?) then why should we have laws at all? Any law would thus be an impediment to one's own true and natural autonomy.over their body. The fact that people think defunding planned parenthood is an equivalent to an attack on womens health or in some manner halting their individual liberty is truly mind boggling and a complete straw man.

What is ludicrous about the videos? People constantly say that the videos are heavily edited... the same organization has released all of the videos IN FULL. They aren't hiding anything, let alone that the claim of "heavy editing" does not within itself diminish the actual claim being presented. If I made a video of me walking from my house to the store down the street, but I cut out the walking from the end of my block to the beginning of the store.... well that clip would be heavily edited, but you would lose nothing in terms of my intentions and goals. Of course they need to edit the videos, they are damn near 3 hours long. Have you watched all of these videos in full? I would say that there are a few points to be made that they should have left in, but all in all, you get the gist of the conversations nonetheless. It does not change the whole dynamic like your comment would make it seem. Does it "prove" any illegality? No, but it does raise enough questions to launch an investigation at minimum. To sit there are say that you (liberals) want a complete investigation into Sandy Bland, but think that no investigation is warranted for planned parenthood is demonstrated ideological bias. Did Senator Warren need to lie to the American people she addressed? No, she purposefully chose to build a straw man and appeared to likely be bought off given that she couldn't even say anything from her heart, everything she said was scripted and read off a card.

 

Sounds good. So tell me, if she didnt give consent...how did the "fetus" get there?


The stork fly in at night and surprise her?

When you partake in an action with known results, you run those known risks and a level of consent is given. You have agreed to run those risks, and the outcomes that come with them.

 

Obamacare, of course, silly....

There is an individual mandate, they have to have insurance.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=418429&page=4&p=1065219678#post1065219678

 

Exactly.

Lefties need to start getting with the times. You cannot have Obamacare, which mandates everyone have insurance even going to far as to subsidize it for people who cant afford it....and then still try and play the "poor women who dont have it/cant afford it" card.


Sorry, not a relevant concern or argument any longer.

Thanks Obama.

 

Maybe the same way Mary conceived.

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Does insurance cover birth control or abortions? Does it cover transportation to clinics, since it seems part of the Republican plan is to decrease availability.

 

It does if you pay the dollar extra abortion rider policy.

 

I see. So my statement was accurate.

Yes.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...-insurance-companies-must-cover-birth-control

Yes, depending on your provider.

https://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/17/1/gpr170115.html


As to being transported? Not sure, but I dont think it's any different than any other emergency ride if needed. Likely you'll see a bill for it if not covered...like everyone else for services not related to killing babies.

 

Maybe Fugazi doesn't know the facts of life.

 

Yea I read that. I wanted actual substantiation, not your usual bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

lol, well, I gave you exactly what you asked for. Im sorry if reality is inconvenient.

Have a nice day.

 

You didn't. You made another unsupported claim.
It's what you do.

 

No, I gave you all the figures and provided the sources, and I even did the math for you.

It's right on the money

 

And the irony is, the Democrats are just fine with this. Hummm, I wonder what their reaction would be if she was a Republican...

Okay kids, the word for today is Hypocrite. Can you say Hypocrite, come on and spell it with me D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T.

 

Liberals are liberals for a reason, their inability to grasp reality. They live in a shell of their own making, and the only reality they can see is their own propaganda.