The Left's attacks on trump show they aren't interested in anything bipartisan.

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  1. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Very well thought out response , thanks for the read.

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    That's a unique outlook , but I have to say I don't share your opinion.
     
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    As as New Deal Democrat, I can assure you that most of my cohort would not even consider voting for a carnival barker like Trump. New Dealers take government seriously (it worked pretty well when we were in charge), and we arent' going to fall for a charletan who treats government as a game show.
     
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    kgeiger002 Active Member Past Donor

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    Some really good Mary Jane does in fact help with anxiety.
     
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    You've actually hit the nail on the head. The left has been thoroughly hijacked by immigrationists and feminism. Those two things are the top of the cast system. Which is why Trump is real opposition to them. I'll bet they're more threatened by him than even the GOP is.

    if he doesn't get in, then the complete inconsequentiality of the conservative mind will be proven. You don't have the twisted electrol system that Britain suffers with, so no excuses.
     
  5. Bluebird

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    Well first off, I'm a leftie & I am with the understanding that there should be compromise in all negotiations.
    So,what we have in Washington these days is OBAMA proposes an idea-many of his ideas(for an example:he takes a model of how Health care works for Massachusetts,executed by (R) Mitt Romney)so a Republican Idea,so what happens,because HCR is proposed by a Democrat,the GOP opposes it viciously--kinda makes it hard to compromise when you have GOP ideas being voted down by the very same GOP legislators who originally proposed them---another example is Mitch McConnell(R) getting in front of the mic saying" our # 1 goal is to make OBAMA a 1 term President",kinda tells you that there is not going to be any kind of bipartisan compromises being done.Or Grover Norquiests(far as I know,Grover is not an elected official)no tax increase pledge that he insisted that all GOP elected officials sign-(which they did or most did)least they not get any funding for their campaigns-( talk about elected officials being held hostage by big money) kinda makes it near impossible for any compromise or any real work to get done.
    Now with all the wonderful hoopla with your Trump guy---
    He is out there swinging the world by it's tail,throwing out the red meat that conservatives just gobble up,but when all the excitement calms down a bit & the far right( what is now the base of the GOP,the Tea-party)starts listening to what Trump is saying,I think the great Mr. Trump will start seeing his numbers drop, why is that---the Tea-parties "original" beef was to get spending under control & start reducing our debt & to get people elected & hold their feet to the fire to make that happen---well all that Trump is proposing will take trillions of dollars to make (his words) this country great again,all of which the Tea-party is so vehemitantly(sp)against--so,unless the GOP base is so hypocritical that they completely throw their ideologies out the window,say bye bye to Trump---one other note--when Trump is done exposing the nasty secrets of all his GOP opponents,there will not be a viable GOP candidate left standing----so,keep on swinging the world by the tail Mr. Trump,when the party is over,so will be your GOP party-----
     
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    You forgot Reality TV , WWE wrestler, Pizza Hut Commercial actor.

    And let's not forget. . .a Hardcore Birther.
     
  7. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The founder who then went into the oval office or congress had no experience either, and most were farmers, tinkers, printers, and candle stick makers. Our trouble is probably that we have too many elite career rulers who don't know much about the real world of average americans. And they govern like that too. We have our own class or royals, just without the pomp and circumstance.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly what "liberal views" is Trump campaigning on?
     
  9. Bluebird

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    ADDED ADDENDUM: So,if you GOP tea-party folks are so willing to throw your ideologies out the window in your fervent support for Big-spender Trump,why wait,call your GOP Congressmen & women & your GOP Senators & tell them to get to work now,tell them you changed your mind & are now into putting country over political ideology
     
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    My observation is that liberals like that Trump is running and winning. They see him as a liberal, and as a easy win for their side if he gets the nomination.
     
  11. Brewskier

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    "Bipartisanship" to a left-wing Democrat is a Republican giving in to the demands of left-wing Democrats. It's that simple.
     
  12. robini123

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    Ah the bias of binary absolutes. I am a liberal and so far Trump is the best candidate. If it comes down to Trump or Clinton I am currently leaning towards Trump. Sanders is one I have my eye on too, but I do not know much about him yet.
     
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    It most certainly does me. We have been suffering with one of those for the past 6 1/2 years. Woe is us.
     
  14. RPA1

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    The only difference is that Trump is a successful negotiator, deal maker and penultimate salesman. We need a winner like him.
     
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    If Dems weren't so busy trying to convince themselves of their superior morality, they would admit to themselves that they really don't want to pay for these illegals and their children, that they gain nothing from them, that they are a drag on every aspect of American life. A little soul-searching, honesty and truth-telling on the Dems side might reveal a mindset much like Trumps.
     
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    I'm not sure Dems even care how much illegal immigration is costing. All they seem to care about is getting the Hispanic vote by pandering to Hispanics while demonizing Republicans who want to address the very real illegal immigrant problem.
     
  17. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    hey got a sports question would like to ask you by PM but there is no way to ask it to you by a pm message,any chance you could open up your pm feature for a just a minute so i could ask you it?
     
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    The most important part of that is not sure. Its getting tiresome reading reply after reply by people who think that they can presume to know how/what liberals think. Id call you redundant but it would be...well..redundant.
     
  19. Bluebird

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    I have to disagree with you here--If we can get back to a "real" political discussion & what actually is happening as far as legislature is concerned instead of shouting your hypocritical support for Big Spender Trump---I must remind you that there is a bipartisan Immigration Reform Bill passed by the Senate( what,in 2013) gathering dust in the HOR that Boehner refuses to bring to the floor for a vote-that is a fact that totally rebukes your post. Just another example of the GOP lying & keeping their voter base uneducated----
     
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    Why do you feel the need to personally attack me? S.744 was sponsored by Charles Shumer (Democrat) and that bill will not stop the next Amnesty. I allows future illegal aliens to obtain and keep U.S. jobs. The bill includes the opportunity for an Administration to issue waivers.

    Read more here:

    https://www.numbersusa.com/content/files/4BigProblems.pdf

    and here:

    http://www.heritage.org/research/re...omprehensive-immigration-bill-top-10-concerns

    The bill is highly flawed...Next time do some research before spouting off and insulting others.
     
  21. Bluebird

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    So, let me ask you this---Are you a GOP Tea-Party supporter?
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Liberal Democrats sponsored S.744 bill which not only calls for amnesty but also calls for a huge expansion of government bureaucracy and more spending. The bill is also full of cronyism for special-interest groups, lawyers etc. Indeed, liberals only want to throw money at the problem....money we cannot afford.
     
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    You didn't answer my question. Why should I answer yours? In fact you didn't even address most of my post about S.744. You mentioned..."If we can get back to a "real" political discussion" I gave you real...You chose to ignore it.
     
  24. a sound mind

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    so people call deems hypocrites becoz they don't embrace the biggest joke that has ever run or tried to run for president before he is even the candidate or the actual president, (the entire world is laughing at the US btw for this joke of man, not that u wud care)....ok, sure :roflol:

    btw: the constant compromises obama made is the actual reason he was/is a pretty (*)(*)(*)(*)ty president
     
  25. Bluebird

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    So,for clarification purposes--I was addressing your post #41,which you are attacking "ALL" Democrats for (you say) not addressing the issue of illegal immigration,you mention "nothing" about the BI-PARTISAN Senate Bill in this post----then when I brought up the BI-PARTIOSAN Senate Bill on Immigration Reform,now you want to argue about why it is stalled in the House-So,it is kind of hard for me to argue "real "politics with you,when,you first say the Democrats are doing" nothing"when I pointed out that you were wrong, you,then want to argue (first, that I was right)second why I am attacking you personally--
    So,to answer your second question----If you are a GOP/Tea-party voter---Please go read my post #30-there is my answer-----
     

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