What's to stop Sanders from running on the Democratic ticket? As for Trump, I do think the Republicans would do well to move away from him, but also to move away from their other nutcase choices. I suppose that doesn't leave them much as the party stands today, though. It really needs either an overhaul or full replacement by a more sensible, more progressive conservative platform. Fiscal conservatism and limited government aren't nearly as bad as social conservatism.
#1-there were long periods of time, the most recent from 1925 - 1965, where almost no immigrants were allowed in. It was no accident that that was the best period for the country's middle class, ever #2-a nation should allow only those into the country who can benefit it; allowing mass immigration from muslim countries does not help the US, they are a burden and possibly a threat. #3-given the multitude of gaps and weaknesses in the country's background security systems for mideasterners it is common sense to stop allowing in muslims #4-given that large muslim immigrant populations in other countries have been problematic and unwilling to assimilate, it would be a mistake to allow any more into the country. There are 57 muslim nations, they are welcome to move to one of them. There is no reason for a muslim to move to the West unless they believe they are participating in the eventual domination of non-muslim societies, an action I'd fight every muslim to death to prevent - and so would every other sane individual who desires freedom and democracy.
Why do people post things on internet forums that they know are absolutely false, and don't even make the slightest bit of sense? I've noticed that when it comes to the far left, they will post the most insane, ludicrous nonsense, no matter how absurd - to try and push their agenda, even if they are humiliated and rendered entirely non-credible when they do so.
Leading the news across the world - and is supported by huge numbers of non-muslims across the West. Go do some research on how many foreign relationships obama has destroyed, and how so many countries have abandoned the US, seeing that its word meant nothing ("Mr. Red lines") under obama. - - - Updated - - - Your error is that you are defining islam as a religion when it is not; it is a death cult stapled to a fascist political system. islam is a cancer to be eradicated, not accomodated. All those who have tried to do so have been destroyed.
Cheney is speaking up because he is a GOP corporate lackey, he's on the payroll of many establishment republican elements who rely upon the illegal aliens Trump wants to deport and prevent from entering the country. The moment Trump built his campaign on the elimination of illegals was the moment I would have told you the GOP establishment was going to attack him fiercely from all directions. Any rational person knows by now that if the importation of illegals was not generating huge amounts of money for corporates/business owners, it would have been stopped and all illegals deported long ago. No sane american thinks that 30+ million illegals in the US with hundreds of thousands more entering the country each year is beneficial for the country as a whole, in fact, there is overwhelming data proving it is very harmful to the country, but the corporate whores in the GOP and US Chamber of Commerce don't give a f--k about the country, they are purely concerned with profits. I actually expect that if Trump reaches the GOP nomination, he will either be assassinated or somehow forced out of the race by the GOP and/or other malignant elements as his plans to deport the illegals jeopardizes the business models of far too many of them to take a chance the majority of the american people will realize that the illegal situation has been one of the most devastatingly harmful efforts against the health and welfare of this nation since its founding, and vote him into the presidency where he could actually stop the illegal floodgates.
I always have a hard time finding economists that say otherwise. Feel free to give it a shot yourself
I am well versed in this area, but here's some light reading for you: http://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-aliens-taking-u-s-jobs http://cis.org/immigrant-gains-native-losses-in-the-job-market-2000-to-2013 https://www.numbersusa.com/content/...s-views-illegal-immigration-tricks-trade.html Does it really take a genius to understand the impact of importing huge numbers of unskilled labor into a few industry sectors will reduce salaries in them? Fast food, construction, hotel maids, etc., all working class fields have experienced reduced real wages since the 1960s when the mass inflows of illegal aliens began in earnest. Ask those old enough to remember how the local Burger King was all teenagers, and is now staffed by mostly illegals, or how the local restaurants had young people or americans working in the kitchens but now have non-legal busboys, waiters and cooks. Same for construction workers - and these changes have all taken place in just the last 40 years, not that long ago.
All from anti-immigration think tanks, no surprise. Does it really take a genius to realize that economic impacts travel beyond special interest groups, and that lowered costs in this sectors matter? And the lowered costs of those services have had no effect on the economy? Not in my locale, or any locale I've traveled to. Again, please prove how this is bad for the overall economy, not just bad for one special interest group. Since you are well versed in this area, you should be familiar with the fallacy of composition. See the above. So far all I see are short-sighted "economic" arguments that are really only limited to specific groups, and no comments about the overall economy. This sounds an awful lot like the liberals who tell me "If the rich get richer, the poor get poorer." It's the common fallacy that the economy is a zero sum game.
You have obviously never took Macroeconomics or failed utterly at it. Everyone knows that money flow to illigal immigrants acts as a one way leakage out of the US economy. For example saving act as a leakage because the money stays in people's accounts. But then the banks lend that money out. And loans act as fill for that leakage. This creates circulation. There is alot more going on, but that is the basic jist of it. Money leavin this country and going to Mexico acts as a permanent leakage. There are estimated 11 million or more illigals in this country. Over a period of how many years? That is the money that should have been in the circulation but now it's not. Illigals are literally robbing this country. To say that it will not have a long term effect on the economy is none-sense
No, actually, aside for a handful of far-right anti-immigration think tanks, I can't think of any economists that disagree with what I just posted. Everyone except economists, apparently. I honestly don't know how to translate this. Sounds an awful lot like monetarism. And the negative economic impact? That's easy to say. Now where's the evidence?
Attacking the source is deflective nonsense. Their reports are well-sourced. That wasn't the issue was it? The focus is that illegals took jobs from american citizens, and reduced the wages in those fields, which is an unassailable fact. As for the alleged "benefit" in reduced costs for the goods and services they provided, that is false as taxes rose to cover the welfare, food stamps, free healthcare / schooling and other governmental support provided for the illegals and their familes. Any savings received from cheaper Burger king hamburgers is more than offset by increased taxes for welfare; not a tradeoff I'd willingly accept. Not sure where you live, but it is the case everywhere I have, and everyone over 45 I've spoken with confirmed the same in their areas, whether they grew up in Seattle, Chicago, NY, Miami, etc. I did, right above. In fact, you can go look up how in places like McDonald's which decades ago had to pay a decent, competitive wage to attract workers hasn't had to because of the mass number of illegals, now posts on its employee bulletin boards in the restaurant helpful information on how to collect welfare. It doesn't take too much thought to put the two together. The damage to working class blacks in the short-term from the 1970s forward, and to the white middle/upper classes as time progressed, has been devastating. Up until the late 1970s / early 1980s, one working parent's salary was sufficient to support a middle class family, by the 1980s and beyond both parents had to work. This was partially caused by the influx of illegals, who eventually began to consume ever greater amounts of tax dollars - in NYC's public school system TODAY, there are over 110K illegal alien children out of 1.1 MM students at an educational cost of about $13,000 per year - if you do the math you can start to see how much of a tax burden that is on the middle class taxpayer. That real wages for the middle and lower classes have been declining steadily since the 1970s, while the top 10% have been increasing, is most definitely proof that the economy is a zero-sum game. It's interesting how the far left rails against the 1% and wealthy, but advocates for illegal aliens which are causing the working and middle classes to suffer economically.
I'd love to continue arguing, but I got as far as "is most definitely proof that the economy is a zero-sum game" and I just can't get any farther. Well, except for the part where you confused me for "the far left." There literally isn't a single economist willing to argue that our overall economy is a zero-sum game, and I've already pointed out your incorrect attempts at guessing at me political affiliation more than once now. So long.
There are economists willing to tell the truth, just some of them work for think tanks whose political persuasion you dislike. The sending of remittances by illegals outside of the country is bad for the US because it removes funds from the country. An american citizen is more likely to spend those funds within the US, allowing the funds to remain part of the economy. I'm getting the impression you will never accept any advice presented to you; you seem to have a pro-illegal alien agenda which defies logic. There are many good economic reasons why most of the countries of the planet work to protect their populations/citizens from illegals coming in to take their jobs, you simply refuse to acknowledge them.
As I said, the real wages of the bottom and middle classes have stagnated, while only the very wealthy have enjoyed gains over the past several decades. This is a fact not in dispute by any mainstream economist. You claim you are running away because your position defending the illegal aliens was (accurately) described as far left, but that strikes me more as retreating under heavy fire from a position you could not realistically defend.
Stock market is up. Job creation is up . Housing is recovering. Budget deficit is reduced. Price of oil is way down. You can properly say that America has not gained as much from Obama as Republicans would like to pretend it could have gained. But to claim America is not way better off then when Bush left office is patently absurd by almost any objective measure you can find. But if you can actually post any real evidence to support your statement feel free to contribute.
All lies. None of those things were as promised. [video=youtube;s2MjQ17kDng]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2MjQ17kDng[/video]
Trump is the right candidate... hated by envious politicians and loved by American voters... go Trump... the White House is yours...
You really can't understand economics. When the private sector goes up with the sacrifice of a government going into bankruptcy, then the assumed economical wealth is false, is just a bubble. A government in bankruptcy like the US government, which won't be capable ever to balance its budget (20 trillion dollars debt) is the worst signal for everybody. A government in bankruptcy is no more contracts with private corporations -which by the way are the MAIN REASON of the bankruptcy- no more social security payments to retirees and the disable, cuts in services like police, ambulance, all kind of internal emergencies, cut in military -the second MAIN RESON of the bankruptcy, just read about the case of a 43 million dollars gas station in Afghanistan. not a "waste of money" but "the stealing" of $42 million and a half and no prosecution of white collar burglars at all- no unemployment services, food stamps and warfare... Just imagine no warfare... The USA should become like any third world country where warfare doesn't exist/// this is to say, poor people won't receive money from the government to supply their needs, then,. millions and millions of poor people will come out to the streets to steal from others. They will steal the chairs and plants from your front yard., They will steal the tires of your car, they will steal the mirrors of your car, the lights of your car... and later they will knock your door and offer your car parts for a few dollars. You call police and they will break your car and house windows... you will have no choice but to pay for your own car parts. Lol Stealing will be the daily bread because those millions of the former food stamps recipients will look for some bucks to buy food, alcohol and drugs... they won't look for jobs because there won't be jobs available... Criminality will increase hundreds percent in the US, because people is used to poverty not so to misery.... This is why politicians are so desperate to raise up the debt limit by raising up the borrowing limit... they know that declaring the government in bankruptcy and making cuts in social services help to dangerous limits will cause a social chaos and criminality will reach the wealthy areas... there won't be technology and security enough to prevent it. Each former administration has been following the path of a greater national debt in order to please the big corporations sucking taxpayers money while keeping Americans "happy" with a bubbled wealthy economy, and the Obama's administration has been the worst of all the former administrations since WW2.
Not lately. All job/employment gains over the past 8 years have gone to immigrants: http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...nce-the-recession-still-went-to-foreign-born/ ???? obama doubled the national debt to $18 Trillion. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...hind-obama-and-the-national-debt-in-7-charts/ Due to fracking and other techniques the obama administration has fought. And the US president has little or no control over the price of oil. Not only are the economic gains non-existent, but the country's standing in the world and its foreign relations have severely suffered. The vacuum it has left in the mideast has been filled with enemies of the US, and the lunatic nuke agreement with iran is not worth the paper it was printed on. Just this week it has come out that iran DID have a nuclear weapons program that obama refused to acknowledge, and violated UNSC restrictions with missile tests. Just did.
Oh the irony of the last worst thing to ever happen to the GOP berating the next worst thing happening to the GOP!
