Why is it Easier to be a Mass Murderer in the USA than in Europe?

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  1. Xenamnes

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    Available statistics show that there are few true mass shootings per year in the united states.
     
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    That sounds dangerously like "no true Scotsman". Redefining away the mayhem doesn't help stop it.
     
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    You've heard of this little town in France? They call it Paris.
     
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    Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Tamerlan Tsarnaev killed 6 and wounded 264 without firing a single shot. Timothy McVeigh killed 168 and wounded 680+ without firing a single shot. Ramzi Yousef, Mahmud Abouhalima, Mohammad Salameh, Nidal A. Ayyad, Abdul Rahman Yasin and Ahmed Ajaj killed 6 and injured 1042 without firing a single shot. Mohamed Atta and company killed 3000 without firing a single shot. 2011.09.11 Waltham, MA Three Jewish men have their throats slashed by Muslim terrorists, not a shot fired. 2013.02.07 Buena Vista, NJ A Muslim targets and beheads two Christian Coptic immigrants, not a shot was fired. 2013.08.04 Richmond, CA A convert "on a mission from Allah" stabs a store clerk to death, no shots fired. 2014.09.25 Moore, OK A Sharia advocate beheads a woman after calling for Islamic terror and posting an Islamist beheading photo, no shots fired.

    Seriously Todd would it make you feel any better if the guy drove a truck bomb right into the building and leveled the place?
     
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    They will fight for the Liberty of a person on a terrorist watch list before they deny him the ability to stop at the McGun AR drive through. Libertarians....:deadhorse:
     
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    America is constantly preening itself about how civilized and advanced it is. Do you really want to compare yourself with Third World countries? And if you want to compare your shooting statistics with France or Belgium, be my guest.
     
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    The entire West is obviously very civilized and advanced. It is also clearly very decadent and corrupt.
    Note the topic of this thread.
    It is very easy to slaughter disarmed human beings wherever they gather.
     
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    How did ISIS get AK-47s in Paris?
     
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    We haven't had armed ISIS squads mowing people down with AK-47s how the (*)(*)(*)(*) did ISIS get AK-47s with your perfect European gun laws.

    Don't you realize that all your (*)(*)(*)(*)ing memes don't work after Paris. You need new material.
     
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    The question is why are bigger mass shootings taking place in Europe and not the USA since we have much more rights to guns that Europe?

    Norway and France have had bigger massacres than what we have gone through.
     
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    Why is it that they only seem concerned about killings done with guns. It has to do with our rights. They HATE our right to protect ourselves. Maybe some of them are criminals who want Americans unarmed, because armed Americans are bad for their livelihoods and their lives. Lol.

    [video=youtube;6_x1qrnR710]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_x1qrnR710[/video]
     
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    If anything the ease of getting civilian semiautomatics is reducing casualties. In Europe the terrorists have to use the black market so they just buy AK-47s and kill twice as many people. The European black market is awash in Soviet weapons FYI it's only a question of money.
     
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    *** Anders Behring Breivik, the man charged with killing 77 people in Norway 2011.
    *** Stockholm Sweden, Tommy Zethraeus, attempted murder of five people and the wounding of eleven a shooting spree outside a nightclub.
    *** Nanterre, France massacre refers to an act of mass murder that occurred on March 27, 2002. Eight dead, 19 wounded.
    *** Friday 13 November 2015, a series of coordinated terrorist attacks, consisting of mass shootings, suicide bombings, and hostage-taking — occurred in the French capital and in Saint-Denis, one of its northern suburbs. 141 people were reported killed in the deadliest event in the European Union since the Madrid train bombings in 2004.
    *** Madrid Spain Bombing, explosions killed 192 people and injured around 2,000.
    *** London, UK 2005, fifty-two killed and 700 injured.
    *** Switzerland 2013, four dead and six others injured. /FONT]

    The above is just a smattering of the mass murders that have occurred in Europe. Please not the high casualty rates. In the first instance in Norway Brevik shot people at will for most of a day.
     
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    Muslim terrorists have been murdering innocent people in both the United States and Europe, and most other areas of the world, and Europeans fret about America's 2nd Amendment. It's difficult to take these people too seriously.
     
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    I agree with you completely. Their argument is a strawman position and right now it's a knee jerk reaction to ban guns. Remember don't blame the terrorist or numb skull using the gun. Blame the gun. Matten used a semi-automatic weapon. Not one Progressive politician is blaming the Islamic radical ideology, they are blaming the gun. It's truly pitiful
     
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    I get it, you want to make it ridiculously easy for terrorists to get their hands on weapons that can cause massive carnage. Why does the right-wing love terrorists so much that they would aid them in accessibility to high volume weapons?
     
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    Sadly it's true. Europe is awash in Soviet weapons. The people just don't see it because their criminal element is more organized and controlled than the US'. What has lead to such violence in the US more than anything was the foolish breakup of our organized crime syndicates. Europe wasn't that stupid.

    Paris showed the people of Europe just how easy it is to get military weapons, not military srltyle like the AR but real military weapons like the AK-47, in Europe but the people still don't believe it because they have been brainwashed by propaganda. They don't think they exist but when you ask them where they think all the Soviet weaponry in the former eastern block went st hey sit their dumbfounded. They literally think that they all simply disappeared.
     
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    That is BY FAR the most ignorant thought I have read yet! I would like facts. I swear just because Obama says it, IT MUST BE TRUE?????
    That is kind of like me trusting my niece with Bill Clinton for an hour, or Hillary with her private emails!
    I don't know why Liberals can't get it through their heads or read that this happens in GUN FREE ZONES!
    AKA, people with a license to carry a weapon can't be there to stop ANY terrorist, whacko, or crazy idiot who decides to do this.
    If anyone thinks any kind of "NEW" law is going to change anything, yes it will. It will stop the trained, licensed to carry person from helping YOU out next time something bad happens!!!
     
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    You understand that when you lie to make a point, you don't actually make a point -- right?
     
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    They forgot why the Founders of our country put the second amendment second in the Constitution. Even way back in 1774-75 the British knew the best way to control the colonists and keep them paying taxes to the crown was to confiscate their weapons.

    http://www.davekopel.org/2A/LawRev/american-revolution-against-british-gun-control.html

    Excellent historical piece.
     
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    Quiz: Who said Obama care would save us $2,500 a year on health insurance? Who said "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor, if you like your health plan you can keep your health plan."
     
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