Why is it Easier to be a Mass Murderer in the USA than in Europe?

Because we have freedoms and liberties and we would rather suffer the consequence having those freedoms and liberties then give them up in exchange for a little bit more security

 

There have been plenty of times where people have defended themselves from criminals or murderers (or potential murderers) with their weapons. Where do you come up with this stuff? Do you live on Fantasy Island or something?

 

yeah amazing how it happened in Paris and Norway given guns like that are banned there. Or mexico that has even more draconian idiotic gun bans than France

its fun watching gun banners joyfully use this massacre to perpetrate their hatred towards gun owners. BTW there is no such thing as a 30 round CLIP and almost all centerfire rifle ammo will penetrate common body armor-but I don't believe the bar goers were wearing such stuff

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so you believe in prior restraint? what is your solution to rape?

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if they are not defensive weapons why are civilian police officers carrying them? police officers have no greater right to shoot civilian crooks than we do. and based on your posts, it is clear to me that you really don't appear to know what those firearms are mainly used for but since ALL RIFLES are used in less than 3% of all murders involving firearms, your claim is fraudulent

 

That reminds me. I remember some liberals a few years back were advising women to just go along with rape so that the man doesn't kill you. Can you imagine that? For one thing, you never know if the rapist is going to kill you or not. They are sick people who are also unpredictable. For another thing, I would much rather shoot him than lie there and allow someone to violate me against my will!

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They would rather see women be raped than see women armed with guns, I think.

 

most people who think this through understand the people LEAST LIKELY to be impacted by schemes designed to make it hard for (law abiding honest cities) someone to buy or possess a rifle while those MOST LIKELY to be disarmed by such feel good silly schemes are those LEAST LIKELY to misuse their weapons


reality suggests that someone willing to die in order to kill dozens is really not someone who is going to obey a stupid gun law.

 

you mean you would rather fight back then say do what they tell you and pee yourself and hope that means the rapist runs away rather than beats you savagely

as one self defense instructor noted years ago-gun haters find its more morally acceptable for a woman to be found raped and strangled with her own pantyhose than for the police to finder her attacker dying from several 38 caliber holes and the woman explaining why she has a black eye and her dress has been torn off of her

 

So pathetic. And remember when they said that kids should throw textbooks at school shooters??? Good geebus. They are so nutty. Then we had that poster on the other site that said women should take karate and fight off the men with her physical strength??? While that might be possible, it's surely not probable. All the guy has to do in most cases is punch the woman in the face, and she is going down, especially a more petite and small woman.

 

Your country has the highest incidence of rape in the western world.

 

It's really obvious. If someone draws a gun on you with the intent to kill you, how will you reach your gun before he pulls his trigger! It seems like you live in some cowboy fantasy world. Do you think that you would be able to do a somersault head over heels getaway and reach for your gun while the attacker marvels at your acrobatic display and forgets about pulling his trigger of the gun that he has already got pointed at you?

 

There are and have been PLENTY of instances where a person has used their gun in self defense. Are you denying this FACT? There is more than just ONE potential scenario. I've posted plenty of education for you guys to see just how people have used their firearms to defend their lives or their livelihoods. Do you just ignore those scenarios? You may or may not be able to get to your weapon, but does that mean you completely IGNORE situations in which you can and do use your weapon? WTF is wrong with you people?

 

I believe Sweden has the highest rates of rape in the world. Why do you think that is?

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Another foreigner complaining about American citizens rights. Don't you have any problems in your own country to worry about? Why can't you foreigners clean your own house?

 

Yes I am, and please post your scenarios and then I can see how that disagrees with my suggestion in posts 211 & 214. Also remember that the post that you responded to was about someone who intends to kill someone else

 

europe doesnt share an open border with mexico

 

If Sweden used the same rape laws as the US, the US would have the highest incidence of rape.

http://college.usatoday.com/2015/09...t-statistic-validated-in-new-national-survey/

Perhaps you can post a link to Sweden that shows worse figures

 

Go google it. There are THOUSANDS of cases, and I've posted plenty of videos here and elsewhere. The problem is . . . you never know WHO intends to kill you. Many, many times, robberies, rapes, etc., turn into murder. However, it is very EASY to find information about people using their weapons to defend themselves. Are you denying this happens? Don't be silly.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

This stands in contrast to reported rape rate of 1.2 per 100,000 in Japan, 1.8 per 100,000 in India, 4.6 rapes per 100,000 in Bahrain, 12.3 per 100,000 in Mexico, 24.1 per 100,000 in United Kingdom, 28.6 per 100,000 in United States, 66.5 per 100,000 in Sweden, and world's highest rate of 114.9 rapes per 100,000 in ...

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And if some other countries used the same criteria as the United States and had similar statistic gathering methods, perhaps their numbers would be higher. Derrr. The US probably has the MOST accurate data gathering and statistic gathering since we have the money and resources in which to do it!

 

So you have no defence of your argument!

 

Sure I do. Clean your own house before you go (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing and moaning about Americans and OUR rights.

 

What rape laws don't they share? Unwelcome sexual contact is in unwelcome sexual contact.

 

America is the BEST country in the world. Shove that up your Old English butt.

 

I wonder if the Brits are still sour that we kicked their wimpy little butts during the Revolutionary war and always had to come bail their butts out during war times throughout history? When they are overrun with Islam and want Americans to come help them out, we should just say NO, deal with it yourselves. Ungrateful, rude, and nosy Brits.

 

There are thousands, yet you wont post one!

My link shows that 10% of US female undergraduates were raped = 10,000 per 100,000 of US female undergraduates were raped during their college years

Sweden is one of the richest countries in the world! It's ironic that you write "The US probably has the MOST accurate data gathering.." and in the post you provide a link that states for the US "The majority of rapes in the United States go unreported"

 

Yeah, the cost of a constitutional right, the cost of a freedom, involves costs. And this is one of the costs. The only question is, do you only grant rights and freedoms that have no cost at all? Well, every right and every freedom come with costs and neither exist without costs. This is just the reality here.

Of course if one looks at the history of humanity, and what happens if you disarm a people, if you give it enough time, and we have plenty of that, what has happened in the past turns out very badly for those who were disarmed. You can end up with men like stalin and hitler, who can do as they want, and you end up with Jews who were murdered by the millions, and who never could even defend themselves, for only the people doing this to them had guns.

Now one can believe if they want to, that human beings are no longer capable of what history shows us they are capable of. But delusional thinking is very bad, and its weakness can also be found in our history. Man has not changed psychologically since he was a hunter gatherer. There has been no evolution in the psychology that has created such a brutal and violent history of our species. All it takes to revert are people who want something, like Hitler, Stalin and so many others throughout history. They stand a much worse chance of creating their egomaniacal hells, if you allow a people to be free to defend themselves, with guns. But if you take those guns away, for a perceived security, given enough time, history shows us in spades what will happen again. So, the costs involved in rights and freedom will never be too great over the long haul. For human psychology, what man is, human nature, has not evolved one bit. I wish it had.

So our Founders were much more intelligent than many in gov't are today. They knew what man was, and his history. And they chose freedom and rights over the other. They knew it came with costs, but those costs in the big view, were worth it. Unlike some today they were clear thinking and not delusional. But so much of our thinking and the policy that comes from that is based on utter delusion, wishful thinking, visions that human nature will corrupt in time.

 

I can post THOUSANDS of them. I could spend all day here doing that. Are you incapable of looking for yourself, or are you afraid that you will learn the TRUTH?

[video=youtube;COZm7uCCjHM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COZm7uCCjHM[/video]

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Well, there you go then. Sweden has an incredibly high rape rate, higher than the US. Why do you think that is?

I'm sure plenty of people from all over the world do NOT report their rapes. That is not just a United States thing, you know! I can't believe people can be soooo dense.

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It would help if you spent some of the day getting some reading comprehension practice. Post 211 states "Make the punishment of carrying a gun in public harsher" and post 214 states [i}my suggestion is that guns can still be owned but only stored on private properties [/I]. Five of those gun uses were carried out by the private property owners. As for the second to last link, do you really think that it is ok to kill a drunk person involved in a fight, i am amazed! That is murder
So still waiting for one of your 1000's of examples where a person with the intention to kill someone was stopped by the intended victim using his concealed carry

You also appear to have a problem with maths. Sweden's rape state of 65 per 100,000 is not worse than US's female graduate rape stat of 10,000 per 100,000.