Denouncing Donald Trump: Why I cannot cast my vote for this blowhard

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    "I don't even wait" says otherwise to "consent". Trump is a sex offender.
     
  2. WJV

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    How old are you again? Why are you not getting any (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)? Have you ever seen the movie Little Miss Sunshine? It is very good -

    Grandpa: Can I give you some advice?
    Dwayne: [shakes head "no"]
    Grandpa: Well, I'm going to give it to you, anyway. I don't want you making the same mistakes I made when I was young. Dwayne, that's your name, right? Dwayne? Listen to me, this is the voice of experience talking. Are you listening? $%$% a lot of women, Dwayne.
    Richard: Dad!
    Grandpa: I got no reason to lie to you kid, $%$% a lotta women. Not just one, a lot. So are you gettin' any? Is it going anywhere?
    Dwayne: [shakes his head no]
    Grandpa: No? Jesus! What are you? Fifteen? You should be gettin' that young stuff! That young stuff is the best stuff in the world!

    What Grandpa says is very true. You should try to $%$% as many women as you can. Especially while you are young. You should not be spending so much time worrying about the world while you are young. Worry about $%$%ing as many young ladies as you can. Young ladies want to $%$% just as much as young men do - probably more actually so keep that in your mind.

    Do you really think that Grandpa is such a bad guy? Does what Trump said really make him a terrible guy?

    Sometimes relationships do not work out for whatever reason and it is far worse for couples to stay together and be unhappy than to separate or to look outside the marriage for sex and other things right? Marriage means different things to different people so we really can't assume that every married lady is not up for sex just because they are married because many of them are. So it really isn't particularly sinister or anything like that to try to have sex with a married woman in modern times if you think about it. There is no harm in asking right?

    The main thing is that people do things that make them happy isn't it? If Hillary wants to stay with Bill after he has been caught cheating then that is up to her right? Everyone's situation is unique and different. Marriage means different things to different people. Does Trump wanting to have sex with married women really make him such a bad guy? And is any one of us perfect?

    You sound like a good person. But I think you should be more worried about $%$%% than politics while you are young.
     
  3. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm voting Trump.

    Cheers
     
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    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    the women give consent afterwards to advance their careers, Trump knows they won't press charges and is not a sex offender.
     
  5. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    I don't need to say anything here!
     
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    in America we have something called liberty that maybe england isn't aware of, it allows for rich and successful people like Donald Trump to pay for consent after relations.

    the poor have to get consent before relations, because they cannot afford to pay the bribery.

    when Donald Trumps tariffs and huge wall are enforced, the American peasants will be able to enjoy the Divine Rights of Kings as our founding fathers intended for us, when we defeated england for freedom. the poor will have the same privileges of the rich, and only Donald Trump understands this.
     
  7. Lesh

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    A. NAFTA...the least damaging but best known trade deal was a GOP written and supported deal . Clinton (BILL Clinton) should never have signed it but then he was essentially a right wing Dem. The real problem with NAFTA was that it opened the door for other more damaging trade deals.

    B. Clinton signed Graham Leach-Bliley. Anther GOP written supported deal. THAT was what caused the housing bubble and a competent Presidency could have and should have headed it off.

    So essentially you're INCENSED at Hillary because of two GOP Bills that her HUSBAND signed.

    This makes sense to you?
     
  8. BillRM

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    Give me a break all repeat all calls for abortions to be make illegal for now is hypothetical due to the SC so your point is meaningless on it face.

    Keeping Trump and his running mate far far away from the ability to appointed new SC justices that might overturn Roe v. Wade is vital for anyone who care about the welfare of women.

    Footnote the republican party now at both the state and federal level is doing it best to limit the access to abortions for poor women within the limit of the SC rulings.

    Once more my bet is that the same lawmakers who are trying to limit safe abortions for the poor would be the very first to made sure that any woman they care about would get a safe abortion if that is her wish.
     
  9. garyd

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    Just explain one thing to me, why is Trump talking bad worse than Clinton doing bad. And how do you know he knew he was being recorded for posterity.?
     
  10. AmericanNationalist

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    Here's a little experiment for you: Go look up in google for any policies pertaining to overturning Roe V Wade. I think you'll have to go back to 2000 or 2004(16 or 12 years ago). It literally is NOT a plank of the Republicans.(Or anyone really). Abortion is here to stay, we're just looking for a legal moral ground.

    So while you and pals want to entertain a fantasy that doesn't exist. I prefer living in the real world. You should try it. Some things are crappy, other things are better too.
     
  11. AmericanNationalist

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    According to the leaked documents, Hillary believes in much the same world.(And I knew she did prior to the leaks, because she tried to make herself a power politician. Literally no difference from her and the establishment Republicans, just a different party.) So, the ire really is that she's the left version of Jeb Bush.
     
  12. BillRM

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    Nonsense as even with the SC states are making all kind of so call health rules to force clinics that provide abortions to shut down.

    Large areas of this nation are without such clinics and only the actions of federal courts blocking some of the so call health rules had stop even larger areas from being without such clinics.

    The war to keep abortions both safe. available and legal is ongoing to this very day.
     
  13. dairyair

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    They are binary thinkers. It's 1 or the other. On every issue. There are no shades of gray, there is not 3rd or more option. It is far to complicated for the binary thinkers to have more than 2 options. I guess their head would explode.
     
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    Yes. I don't think there was a gun put to his head. As you said, he became a neo con. And Hillary is the same.
    And this is America. USA. We don't need only 2 families in control. Bush and clintons.
    If you liked what the GOP did in the 90s, what bush did, you'll vote for hillary and get more of the same.

    Does that make sense to you?
     
  15. dairyair

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    Exactly. How do people not see that. She is a career corporate politician. Wall street is her street. Not main street.
     
  16. Hoosier8

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    In the latest emails she has as much said so and admits to lying to her public.

    I understand the debate tonight the first question will be to Hillary about what Trump said ten years ago. One wonders if they will cover any of the real issues.
     
  17. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    :wall: I'm trying my best to get you to see the real world but you insist on continuing to live in the world you prefer to see. Let's debunk this clinic issue, shall we.

    Real world. Click it and see.

    These Clinics are understaffed, and they don't provide as much. Everyone knows about Gosnell as the worst case scenario. If your issue is really with keeping Abortion safe, you'd want to go away from the clinics as much as anyone else. The issue of course is that there aren't as many health care facilities in certain states(like Texas, controversially). But that doesn't make it less sound for the future.

    It just means, I'd keep the clinics operational in the short term, but long term I want basic and high quality hospice care to be available to everyone within a 10 mile radius of their cities and towns. What would you prefer? A high quality physician or a low quality one? I prefer high quality.
     
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    Thanks for posting this, I was torn between the 2 candidates, because I like some things about Trump, and despise others. I like some things about Hillary, and despise others. However, Trump continues to poke holes in his own ship every time he opens his mouth, and this isn't some left wing plot to twist his words - Trump has revealed himself how he feels about women, and granted, he said this a number of years ago, but people go back on things Hillary said and did years ago. All evidence I've seen indicates that Trump hasn't changed, he's just become better over the years of hiding how we truly feels about women. He sure as heck won't be received any votes or support from me anymore - even on the issues I agree with him on, I'd still rather have the admittedly very imperfect Hillary over him. However, I know I'm doing what most people do, and voting for the candidate I agree with more issues on, and that's Hillary anyway. And I can respect and understand how those who are more right wing will continue to support him, because his views more closely align with their then with Hillary.

    One good thing is both Trump and Hillary agree to take guns from people on the no fly list, (the NRA - whom I respect, disagrees), and I disagree with the NRA on this, but it's good to know no matter who gets elected, they will try to take guns from people who are already deemed to dangerous to fly.
     
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    Another stolen Trump sign. Nothing new about that on a street you said otherwise is 100% Democrat. :roll:
     
  20. JakeJ

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    What about Hillary Clinton believing that literally half of all adults in the USA are either unredeemable and deployable OR totally lazy basement dwelling bums leaching off their parents and expecting everything for free?

    Here's the big difference on women. Trump immediately apologized. Did Hillary ever apologize for the horrific name calling and accusations she made against Monica - a 23 year old intern that Bill Clinton could have fired if she refused with a single sentence? When Bill Clinton finally was caught after waves of lying about it including under oath, did Hillary EVER apologize for calling Monica a liar and all the other foul things she said about her? Did Hillary Clinton ever apologize to the woman she threatened, called a liar and trailer trash prostitute after Bill Clinton paid her off with $800,000? Never. There is no indication that Trump threatened anything or promised anything to that woman. Hillary Clinton threatened - to their faces - half a dozen women.

    So... how do you think that makes Hillary Clinton better than Trump? Trump didn't lie. Didn't deny it. Promptly apologized and acknowledged it was wrong, and had not said this to any woman, nor did he or his wife trash talk about that woman publicly like Hillary Clinton does. It was stupid private macho guy talk. When it comes to conquests of women, many men lie to each other like hell over conquests that never happen, just like to the opposite most older women will lie to claim less past sexual partners than she had in private conversations.

    What about Hillary? Apologize? Ever? Even for direct threats and attacks against those women? None of those things.

    The media and press are corporate propaganda outlets that have trillions of dollars in motive to support Hillary Clinton - so they fixate singularly on this topic against Donald Trump. Does that mean you then must do so to? Everything I wrote above about Hillary Clinton is very well known in the public record.

    Isn't quite hypocritical for Democrats to suddenly claim to be the morality police about women and suddenly demanding that men be old fashioned gentlemen with clearly different rules of behavior for men and women? Remember, Hillary said that actually Bill Clinton will be the president in terms of economic domestic policy - so Bill Clinton's conduct absolutely is relevant, isn't it, as he will be going back into the White House if she wins.
     
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    On issues... do you agree with open borders and no trade restrictions whatsoever? For example, the USA has a BIG tariff on Chinese tires claiming without those the USA tire production industry would immediately collapse. There are all sorts of tariffs the USA has towards imports, just like countries have tariffs against USA products. Do you approve of the USA having no borders for which anyone may come and go - or stay - no questions asked and no restrictions?

    What about her saying that what she says publicly is completely different from her actual positions - to assure foreign banks they shouldn't worry about anything she says on the campaign trail because really she's for them - for which in return over $100 million dollars was put into Hillary and Bill Clinton's PERSONAL bank accounts from those super rich and global elitists.

    From the start, the corporate propaganda media and press has declared this election is only about personality - to prevent any real discussion of ANY actual topics that have anything to do with the economy, domestic policy or foreign policy. They declared it is ONLY a contest of who do you despise more? And then spend 95% of their coverage declaring why you should despise Trump - asserting then Clinton is the default lesser of 2 evils in the class-president personality contest.

    No one even pretends there is a reason to vote FOR Hillary Clinton. Just reasons to vote against Trump. For personal reasons, not issues reasons.

    There is no free media and press left in the USA. They were all bought out by super rich elitists and global corporations.
     
  22. krashsmith81

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    A well thought out post. I would vote Hillary (but I can't vote, long, sad story), because her beliefs are closer to mine. Let me give an example, Hillary will combat global warming, Trump won't. Hillary wants equal pay for women, Trump apparently doesn't. However, Trump's wall idea is spot on, as is his support for the 2nd Amendment. Hillary wants to close private prisons, I agree. Trump wants to ban all Muslims, I disagree. However, Trump does have other things I support, though I don't recall offhand. I think his Wall idea was good, because he's one of the few people to stand up and say "I am against illegal immigration" - you can't say that without being called a racist these days. Also, I think Trump will do more to combat radical islam than Hillary, but I can't go for his notion of killing their family members. So as you can see, I'll lose out on some things no matter who gets elected. Just wanted to show you I'm not a 100% Hillary bot, lol.
     
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    No actually it doesn't.

    You're blaming Clinton for Bush's screw-ups?

    That makes sense?
     
  24. AmericanNationalist

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    We have the Civil Rights act of 1964, which covers equal pay. Women are paid equally for the job. The caveat, is that many women go into different professions than men, with different pay scales. They are being paid EQUALLY in those pay scales, but men earn more through more laborious and more financially incentive positions.

    There's a difference from a janitor and a CEO. There's a difference between working at a salon and working as a secretary. So even though more women are postgraduates today, their FINANCIAL choices are putting them at a comparative disadvantage.(And not even, the difference is literally a nickel.) The Democrats are LYING to you about this paux issue that comes from their economic illiteracy.

    What Global Warming is to the right, financial knowledge is to the left.
     
  25. dairyair

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    No. I only said bush continued what clinton started. They have the same goals. World global trade for the benefit of Wall St types. And to the detriment of most of the working people of this country. Bush expanded on clintons housing policy.
     

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