Anti Semitism in Trump's America

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry..._58278bfde4b0c4b63b0cf8ab?section=us_politics

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...semitic-overtones_us_581e34dee4b0d9ce6fbc76e8

To deny that this has occurred because of Trump's embrace of the extremist alt right white nationalist supremacists is disingenuous.

This is not their America!

This is not the Constitution that I swore an oath to defend.

This is unacceptable and will not be tolerated.

Trump needs to stand up now and condemn these heinous acts by his supporters because to fail to do so is a tacit endorsement of them.

There are great many of Trump's supporters in this forum who do not endorse this anti-semitism either and I am calling on them to post their own condemnation in this thread and to denounce what is being done in their name.

And for those who believe that this is "freedom of expression" that is complete and utter bovine feces. This was a hate crime with the intent to harass and intimidate those who are being targeted. The perpetrator(s) must be apprehended and charged accordingly because this is how things started on prior occasions.

As Americans we must stand united against this odious element in our society. We must teach our children to speak out against this vileness.

We the People deserve far better than this hatred and it is time to put an end to it before it spreads like a cancer and destroys us.

 

And it isn't as though Trump's failure to denounce these hate crimes has gone unnoticed either;

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/micha...-trump-de_b_12916046.html?section=us_politics

 

In an Editorial November 10 the New York Times called on Trump to denounce the hate he had embraced to get elected. His nod and wink to Fascist elements in his constituent is a dangerous game that once engaged is not easily calmed.

Minorities, women and Muslims are rightly concerned and he's done nothing to dissuade than fear.

 

And the longer he waits the bolder his extremist alt right supporters will become.

Yes, you are right that this is more than just anti-semitism. Pence appears to be gearing up to repeal gay marriage and to try and ram his bill to allow extremist evangelical bigots to discriminate against gays without penalties. There are fears amongst the South Asian community that they will be targeted since many of them are Muslims. Michigan has one of the largest Muslim communities in the nation and something like this can radicalize elements amongst them to embrace Islamist beliefs.

Trump is playing with fire and if it is not stopped now it could lead to a very dangerous period in this nation.

We the People must speak out now against these hate crimes.

 

And those who by their silence condone them.

 

You don't think he himself was involved? How can he fight it. Probably a lot of the Trump voters were motivated by his promise to give them some hope for the future.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...-won-vote-michs-white-working-class/93618428/

America seems to have gone into unmanaged decline leaving millions of people, in particular white working class without hope. Trump has used the old card of blaming the other and the White Nationalists have jumped on board. White Nationalists still have as their prime hatred Jews, though some of the newcomers hate Muslims more. Either way not a good move.

Concerning Jews here is a Haaretz article on it

I am not sure what he is saying but it looks like the difference between people who are just Jews and people whose first priority is Israel. It appears that the support for Israel among American Jews is slipping

http://jfjfp.com/?p=88235

While Trump looks likely to go for allowing Israel to forget it's dues towards the Palestinians

Trump means Israel won’t have to accept Palestinian state

Revenge is sweet


We have something similar going on in the UK where left wing Jews as well as the left wing in general are being labelled antisemites. It is a bit of a nightmare for American Jews not least because Trump was very successful with Protestants/Evangelicals who are very pro for religious reasons a far right response in Israel and whose supposed affiliation for Jews is frequently believed to be disguised antisemitism. Yes, Jews could be in for a hard time. as well as others. Of course if you promote hatred of any minority, you open the door for them all which we have seen in this election and which you acknowledged in the later bit which I have gone and cut.

 

Last time I checked, this is still ObamaWorld, where he has sown the seeds of hatred and divisiveness for 8 long years. This happened in uber liberal NY who voted overwhelmingly for Hills. Write a letter to uber liberal mayor de Blasio. Remember it is the Left who hates Israel, not the right.

 

It was not a liberal Hillary supporter who painted those swastikas and it is disingenuous to allege that it was.

The hard ugly truth is that Trump condones these attacks by not condemning them and judging by your post you appear to condone them too.

Please feel free to correct me if I am mistaken.

 

Your link raises a pertinent question.

Why haven't Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump condemned these anti-semitic attacks in NYC?

Are they part of the problem in that they have bought into Trump's embrace of the extremist alt right or are they just the beard that Trump is using to hide his own anti-semitism?

 

They're saying the swastika is a symbol for Trump now? What are those creeps teaching our kids in schools? Look it up kids the swastika is a symbol of WWII Nazi Germany. I don't think Trump has a magic wand he can wave and people will stop using it especially German Nazi wannabes.


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The sad part is that the cats out of bag. It is now a FACT that HRC organizations were paying people to incite violence to make Trump supporters look bad. It's recorded on video. It's in private emails. So whenever something like this happens, I'll defer to it being a fake setup rather than reality.

Add to the fact that the MSM continues to ignore violence being caused by HRC and Obama supporters. They continue to hide them. The recent beating and car jacking did NOT receive the attention it deserves. Not even close, because we know if the positions were reversed what the news cycle would have been.

The MSM has been lying more than usual this entire election. The polls are more proof. The results are MORE proof. The MSM has caused all of this by being disingenuous and now we can't trust them. If they're not going to cover candidates equally, treat crime reporting equally, reveal corruption equally than they are not doing their job. (*)(*)(*)(*) them.

I'll take these incidents with a grain of salt before I believe they're real. ....and I'm Jewish.



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How do you know if it was or was not a Hillary supporter? Or a Trump supporter for that matter?

 

The major ironies being, of course, is that the DNC was busted paying shell companies to HIRE street people to pretend to be Trump supporters while committing violence and racism and bigotry in HIS NAME. The other irony is that it became an open secret that Obama HATES Israel specifically and Jews in general due to his radical leftist background and the fact that he snubbed Netanyahu when BIBI visited this nation during Obama's first term. So what does all that mean? It means that it was probably more paid leftists who put up that mark and that leftists in general are anti-Israel and anti-Jewish via the nature of their politics.

 

I never considered the Trumpeizda as a racist or as an anti-Semite plus his son in law is Jewish and hus daughter Ivanieka converted to Judaism. I will admitt that I believe that he did look the other way when KKK, Nazi and neo Nazi and White supremacist type of groups supported him. He did naccept their support though.

 

Acknowledging them gives them legitimacy. Obama didn't call out BLM for being a racist violent organization. He supported them. Hillary too.

So?

As horrible as a KKK or Nazi group is, think about the actual damage they have done in the past few decades vs BLM in the past couple years.

PERSPECTIVE!!!!


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The lefties are beside themselves because they have zero influence over the new President elect. Trump should just ignore this nonsense.

 

I suspect the vast majority of these things are being perpetrated by the cupcakes and cry babies of the progressive persuasion. They have done it before, no incentive for them to stop now.

 

You have no idea who painted the swastika. Liberals have, time and time again, been caught inciting conflict with such "false flag" attacks.
[video=youtube;kyUQjaz2sb0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyUQjaz2sb0[/video]

 

Well I looked at him and I could see nothing obvious. He was a Democrat for years including making large donations. He has also done some work for AIPAC. Possibly with him just going with the family and the fact that Trump is believed to be pro Israel. I would stick with that the issue is a flawed and I believe deliberately flawed perception of what antisemitism is. That is in today's world antisemitism is seen as criticism of Israel rather than the known canards of traditional antisemitism. Now like you say traditional antisemitism is what has been seen. I'd say it just has to be that this not is not viewed with such concern as criticism of Israel by Trump's Jewish supporters. I was reading that Clinton is now apparently an antisemite who would not let Israel get it's own way - to be honest the opposite of what I had read during the campaign when her bias appeared to be strongly towards Israel.

So I am thinking that in this difficult time when we have BDS on the campuses of the US and Europe and many Jews are moving away from Israel as she turns more and more to the right, antisemitism has been somewhat hijacked to defend Israel's actions.

http://www.jta.org/2016/03/08/news-...the-american-jews-who-support-trump-read-this

It seems to be that for some antisemitism is only seen as criticism of Israel.

Some years ago Robert Frisk said that if antisemitism kept being equated with criticism of Israel a time would come when it became considered a positive to be called antisemitic. He said at that time all the real antisemites would come out of the closet, and we have seen some of that recently in this forum, and it sort of looks as if that may be what is happening with Trump and his supporters - particularly helpful when the only thing seen as antisemitism is criticism of Israel. This of course fits in with the views of Christian Zionists and if I am right could be extremely dangerous to ordinary Jews - who I suspect they eventually will deport to Israel - something which both Israel and many antisemites want (bit harder to know about the WN as they have tended to be supportive of the Palestinians over the Israeli issue - the time when genuine antisemitism and criticism of Israel are linked.

 

Where was all of this moral outrage from the left when Obama was pushing black/white race relations back fifty years, and nearly pushing our country to the brink of a race war?

 

They're both white too. OMG does Trump hate white people??!??!?? (eyeroll)

 

This is obama's fault. He has been the president for nearly 8 years so he created this environment.

 

With the appointment of Steve Bannon, an avowed white nationalist, as his chief strategist in the White House, it's going to be very interesting to see how Trump tries to reunite the country. He's already getting bipartisan criticism over this appointment.

 

Bannon was going to be there but I didn't have him this high. I wanted him in a simple advisory position. The MSM is having a coronary right now as I type this. Bad call to me Trump.

Don't expect Trump to say much, until after inauguration. He's being told better to wait. Does anyone doubt he's going to have a lot to say after? I don't.

It's hypocrisy to demand Trump speak out on one stupid white supremacist Swastika when he's not even POTUS when OBAMA has said hardly nothing in regards to everything. Riots, beatings, property destroyed.

I'll remind you lefties spamming walls of indignation that I didn't see any of that earlier when the " Rape Melania " story broke. Nope not a peep from you. And this pales in comparison. So. Yeah

 

There are some parallels that do not forebode well for the future.

Personally I don't believe that Trump has any interest whatsoever in uniting the country. His base is all he needs and they will intimidate whomever they see as being against him. This is not how to run a civilized country.

I am disappointed that not a single Trump supporter has stood up against this desecration. Instead all I am seeing are excuses, fingerpointing and attempts to lay the blame elsewhere.

That is how children behave when they are caught doing something worng before they have been taught to take responsibility for their own actions.

America is better than this and I still have hope that We the People will reject these odious acts of hatred.