Why abortion is a good thing

Interesting, whose idea was it to have an abortion, her or her parents or whoever?

 

I think she was a street kid. There are a few of them who live on the streets without parents and have a mental age 3 times their chronological age.

But at 12 that is statutory rape here and it should not have had to go to the supreme court for judgement.

 

Abortion is a very complex issue. I believe it important to allow abortions to be performed by medical professionals, as the alternative is dangerous.

However, anyone who believes that abortions are a good thing need to listen to Gianna Jessen:
[video=youtube;hOWMmx6eBjU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOWMmx6eBjU[/video]

 

Who appointed you Lord High Judge of the "no good reasons" why woman have abortions?

Having a child is a life changing event for any woman.

What makes you qualified to make that life changing decision for women you don't even know?

 

Have you tried reading other posts or do you just respond ???

Uh, the world outside yours has decided. The fetus is not a person so it has no rights, ...that's been decided.
Yes, some of "us " CAN answer that question (you are the one who can't answer questions).
The answer is a human fetus is human and living (that's OBVIOUS, duh), but not a human or person so it has no rights.





YOU: ""Like I said, I don't know if a foetus has any rights legally or morally""""

Have you noticed that abortion is legal? YOOOOO HOOOOOOOO....!!!!

 

The foetus might disagree..
Anyway, decided by who? What if they're wrong?

 

How ridiculous to think something that doesn't have the ability to think can agree or disagree.
Even if it could think, it doesn't get a choice.

As long as it uses another's body to sustain it's life it will never have a choice

Who decided ? The Supreme Court. The Constitution. The law.

Prove they're wrong and you might have a case....

Maybe someday your willingness to ask questions will be matched by your ability to answer questions....that would indicate honesty.

 

Like I've said before, NOBODY knows about the rights of the foetus, not even me..
The Supreme Court and lawyers are simply giving us their best guess, and even the Constitution is open to interpretation, so the whole thing is a grey area.
However, one thing emerges from my googling- Christians very rarely have unnecessary abortions because they think it's wrong, but atheists seem to have no qualms at all..

 

OOooh, not even YOU! Well doesn't that make a big difference!

You think that because YOU don't know something it can't exist. I 'd hate to be you when the real world enters yours.

And that's what law abiding people go with. Like I said , if YOU disagree take your case to the Supreme Court....have you???

Oh, that's hilarious! ONE atheist expresses an opinion (not based on atheism) and you think that all atheists approve of abortions.....HINT: with "evidence" like that you won't make it to the Supreme Court with your "argument"


Like I said when the real world enters yours you'll see that Christians have abortions......and since you have never shown any proof or evidence that they don't you have nothing...



...and your post , as usual, is just a diversion from answering all the questions you thought were too INCONVENIENT to answer ...

 

All the main Christian churches oppose abortion unless it's necessary to protect the mother's health, or if scans show the baby will be born seriously handicapped physically or mentally.
Seems a sensible way to me..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/christianethics/abortion_1.shtml

 

Jessen is a big fat liar.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/...-Jessen-Planned-Parenthood-Wasn-t-the-Problem


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/...n-Part-II-Stop-Lying-About-Planned-Parenthood

 

Care to explain how churches opposing abortion means Christians don't get abortions?

Of course you won't, that's an inconvenient question

Care to prove that all atheists approve abortion?


Of course you won't, that's an inconvenient question

See, if you have an opinion you have to have something to back it up, you have shown nothing.

Maybe someday your willingness to ask questions will be matched by your ability to answer questions....that would indicate honesty.

 

You need to work on your googling skills.

From a Christian site, so you can't claim bias:

 

So what? The Church has no beef with abortion if it's necessary..
As for people claiming to be "christians", a lot do it to make themselves look good; for example most people in jail claim to be christians to try to impress the parole board..

 

Zeffy proved her point, you gave an unsubstantiated opinion.....there IS a big difference.

 

Just for the record are you and Zeffy Christians?

 

Off topic, irrelevant, and just another way of avoiding the facts or answering those inconvenient questions..



Care to explain how churches opposing abortion means Christians don't get abortions?

Of course you won't, that's an inconvenient question

Care to prove that all atheists approve abortion?


Of course you won't, that's an inconvenient question

See, if you have an opinion you have to have something to back it up, you have shown nothing.

Maybe someday your willingness to ask questions will be matched by your ability to answer questions....that would indicate honesty.

 

If you answer my questions I'll answer yours, is it a deal?
So I'll ask again- are you Christian,atheist, agnostic, fairy-worshipper etc, or is it a secret?
And also at least tell us if you're male or female, or is that a secret too?..

 

You haven't answered many questions. And that shows an untrustworthiness.

No, I won't answer personal irrelevant OFF TOPIC questions.


...it's just another way of you avoiding the facts or answering those inconvenient questions..

 

I'm Atheist. I think abortion should be legal.

My view is that if abortion is legal, it should be performed as early in gestational age as possible.
I agree with the concept of unborn child. It is in fact the most innocent among us. Its life was begun by no cause of its own and can possibly be selected for termination by no choice of its own.
Should the reasons for termination (ie, because a woman isn't ready, etc) be determined by society? No
Should society be able to place time limitations (first trimestest, second, third trimester, etc) when a woman can decide to terminate? Yes with exceptions to health of course

There were 700,000 abortions perfomed in the US in 2013. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/65/ss/pdfs/ss6512.pdf
91.6% of all abortions take place in the first trimester.
7.1% of all abortions take place in the second trimester.
1.3% of all abortions take place in the third trimester.

When you take the data of the CDC in to consideration, most women seem to choose to terminate her pregnancy as early as possible to fertilization.
Elective abortion is within the time frame that nature also most often terminates pregnancies. 50% of all fertilized eggs are naturally aborted within the first trimester.

If a choice by a woman to terminate her pregnancy early in pregnancy is a tragedy, then why would it not stand to reason that loss of all other naturally terminated pregnancies are a tragedy?

 

YOU claimed that Christians rarely have 'unnecessary' abortions. I proved you wrong. If you disagree with my proof, then post some proof of your claim.

BTW, all abortions are necessary if the woman does not wish to be pregnant.

 

All the main Christian churches are against unnecessary abortions, it therefore follows that the vast majority of Christians toe the church line..-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/christianethics/abortion_1.shtml

Abortion is a grey area in the Bible, for example when talking about the soul and the body, Jesus said:-
"The spirit within gives life, the flesh alone is worthless" (John 6:63 ), which could be interpreted to mean that death of the body is not important in God's eyes, whether it's the death of a human or the death of a foetus.
As I mentioned in another thread, I gave the hospital doctors permission to switch off my elderly mother when she was half-dead in a coma with thyroid complications because I wanted to set her soul free from her useless clapped-out body, so I'm by no means one of these "sanctity of life" do-gooders..

PS- maybe God simply "recycles" the souls of aborted foetuses rather than let them go to waste.

 

Incidentally Trump and Hillary were arguing about abortion in one of their debates, I'm not too familiar with US abortion laws, but Don was saying it was wrong to "rip" near full-term foetuses out of the womb, but Hillary was saying it's not wrong.
Does the law say that foetuses can be aborted at any time, even in the 9th month?

 

Links????

But you say you are for abortion if the foetus is badly malformed - is it alright to do a late term abortion then?

 

Again define "unnecessary". The abortion undergone by that 12 year old here - was that "unnecessary"?