A Nazi Skeleton in the Family Closet

Are you only stubborn???

The question to decide was if Russia can be taken into responsibility for what was done by the USSR!!! Here the court tells No!

It was never disputed by Russia that the killings were done by NKWD! Wake up and look what your own leaders and your parliament is telling about! Man ... really, you make me really wondering sometimes!

 

What her grandparents did wouldn't matter if she didn't carry her inherent prejudices towards Russia with her, and misuses them to influence others. That she would say the Nazis were seen as liberators means they had similar values... which could only be an equal hatred towards those they saw as untermenchen such as the Jews, Russians, Poles, Armenians, Gypsies.

But it's one thing to say you don't like the Poles, Jews, Russians, etc., and that's understandable after all many people do not like others, but the hatreds were so extensive that they killed them without any qualms. This doesn't say much about her, her family or the area she came from.

 

I have news for you, the radical supremacists in Russia joined with their counterparts in Ukraine, and are now members of the Nazi contingents. Russian fascism lost its luster with the coup in Kiev.

 

I have news for you comrade jeanova...regardless what her views are, they can't be held against here whether she relays them to others or not, she didn't perpetrate the crimes, perhaps her grandparents, allegedly did. This is is just some fishing trip witch hunt by some butt hurt pro russian trolls, deal with it.

 

Babi Yar,just another lie for the fools to believe. Even the Holocaust experts have had to admit that
T "Holocaust expert" Prof. Raul Hilberg, considers the atrocities mentioned in these reports as exaggerated.

The wartime aerial photos of Kiev provide incontrovertible proof that the so-called historic documentation of the Babi Yar massacre represents fabricated wartime propaganda and post-war martyr mythology.

 

Today's sad holocaust Tale comes from Dr Leon Wells
Leon hid in poo,and had to drink his own pee. And watched Nazis turn Jews into popsicles
Leon was a young man when the evil nazis made him lie down at night. At night, the evil nazis would run around with hammers and bash in the skulls of Jews. When Leon got up in the morning, there were 5,000 Jews with their brains outside their heads, as a result of the brain bashing.
Leons Mom pulled out all her gold teeth to sell,but Leon dug up old bodies for Nazis and collected over 220 pounds of gold .
Leon was given a bone crushing machine that turned Jews into platinum
Leon would heap piles of Jews into pyramids 2,000 high to burn,but he had to make sure the fire never went out.
Leon threw the ashes in the air,and they were gone.Its ok though because there was always a 60 piece orchestra of Jews playing day and night.
Orchestras were formed everywhere because Jews could play any instrument 24/7
http://tsnoticias.com/vaad_hashoa_b... eichmann 1961 session 22 with leon wells.pdf
http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/othercamps/janowska.html credit:Yehuda Abraham..

 

Today's sad holocaust tale comes from Joanna Millan.

Joanna was only just born when the evil nazis gassed poppa, and sent her and momma to Therienstadt. The evil nazis, who were trying to kill all the Jews, decided they would feed and clothe and look after Johanna for 3 years, even though her mother died of a highly communicable disease, TB.
Joanna was lucky the Nazis were in desperate need of 2 year old girls to work
in the ammunitions factory.
http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co....aust-horrors/story-11685226-detail/story.html

 

Today's sad holocaust tale comes from the dentist, Bachner.

The evil nazis sent Bachner to the Belzec Death Camp. But Bachner did not want to be Deathed, so he dove into poo when the train stopped.

Bachner hid in the poo for a few days, and then ran away!

http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/revolt/belzecresistance.html

 

Weird. I can't in all honesty, say specifically what my grandfather's politics were. Other than him being a lifelong leftist, that is. No details at all. Who talks to grandparents about politics, when a child or teenager (the longest many of us have living grandparents)? And who bothers to find out after the fact? Of all the things we want to know about our forebears, their politics seem about the least interesting. And I'd wager that's because it was of little interest to them .. if they were working class or below. Too busy staying alive.

 

You are an amazing person .... I am telling you about the decision of the court, but you are talking about someone's opinion .... The moderators unfortunately do not allow me to describe your logic.

In Russia, freedom of opinion. Therefore, your references to the fact that Yeltsin, Gorbachev, or someone else talking about something - do not matter. Russians have their own opinion. Russians are free in their thoughts and deeds. By this they are different from Europeans.
As I understand in Germany, the opinion of the Fuhrer, the Chancellor or another representative of the authorities is the opinion of all Germans. At least your comment gives reason to think so.
Maybe now the Koran is read in Germany more often, but the Bible says - "Do not make yourself an idol."

Your statements about Katyn are false statements. If you think that you are right, show evidence. Just do not give me a link to someone's opinion or Wikipedia.

 

Well, somehow you inherit your views, your tastes, your interests and so on, even if you don't talk to parents and grandparents at all.

You ask who talks to grandparents about politics? This woman-minister in her auto-biography many times emphasizes her commitment to Ukraine, to her Ukrainian routs, to Ukrainian community in Canada. She calls herself "Ukrainian-Canadian activist". And there she describes the false story of her grandfather.

But the fact is that her Ukrainian routs are Nazi routs.

 

Man ... you are really stubborn!

Read and look on the this sentence again and don't write such nonsense please... the cout decided only that Rusisa cannot be taken in responsibility for what USSR has done ... not more!

All the other bla bla bla is unimportant crap and uninteresting BS blabbering ... the Russian governments and Russian parliament told always that Kathyn happened and was done by NKWD and not by Germans - point!

If you won't get this into your head, then it is your own problem and not a problem of facts!

 

As expected - you do not have any evidence. Therefore, you dodge around like snake in a frying pan....However ... as usual.

 

o man ...
Jelcin ( Yelcin) conformed that it was NKWD....
Medvedev confirmed that it was the NKWD
Putin confirmed that it was the NKWD
the Duma confirmed that it was the NKWD
the Russian Chief prosecutor confirmed that it was the NKWD

What the hack do you want more? It is undisputed that Kathyn was done by USSR secret service NKWD which became later KGB and even no Russian official denies this!

 

Ahahaha .... You are again writing nonsense. Only Yeltsin said - "maybe ... it is necessary to understand ... it is necessary to conduct new expertises ..."

I do not doubt that the Western media could write different nonsense. For example, Western media claimed that Hussein has chemical weapons ... etc. But I'm telling you - you were misled. Do not read the Western media. It's bad for the brain.
The Poles, for example, write in all seriousness that the Russians specially planted trees near Smolensk so that the Polish plane crashed with the Polish government. I'm not kidding. I actually saw such articles in Polish editions.
But you can see what the German press wrote about Gaddafi. Before NATO destroyed the richest country in Africa. And see what is now in this country.
Further. From the legal point of view - the opinion of any person without evidence is not a basis for the confirmation of the crime.
Do you seriously think that if there was at least an indirect proof of Russia's involvement in the Katyn massacre, would Western politicians be silent about this? If they yell about "Russian hackers" for example.

Turn on the brain. Think more. And most importantly - do not read the Western media.

 

I think you are better off being open and contrite, to be honest.

Its not a sin of yours what your ancestors did or didn't do, just as you can't take credit either. But you can learn lessons from their failings and their successes.

That's leadership.

 

You're assuming she knew about it at all. I think its not unlikely her family shielded her from the truth, particularly when she was younger.

It must be hard deciding when to sit down with your child and say to them: "I have something to tell you about Grandpa..".

Maybe that discussion just never happened.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-family-closet.499530/page-5#post-1067208569

 

Says the right ... your own BS media does not report the truth because uncomfortable and woops the Western media lies ... sure man! forget it...

 

Uh hmmm, just another cry me a river statement by a butt hurt russian troll...hmmm her uke roots are nazi roots", this is bullcrap, once again, why should she be held to scrutiny over her grandparents misdeeds, whether she harbors anything or not psychologically, this is beating a dead horse.

Let's see how come the moskals didn't execute this "nazi Herrenvolk master race clown", yes I read he was indicted on charges of killing approx. 400000 poles, Nothing about ukranians, which the crimes were far more atrocious! Read his quotes about ukranians , and in particular the one he made on March 5 1943. I guess the moskals were too concerned about the contents and whereabouts of the amber room, a couple million dead Soviet uke's, mehhh, who cares, he actually did us a favor. Yah, he died in a polish prison where Muscovites claimed no access, even though Poland was Warsaw pact, LOL, really.
HTTPS://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Erich_Koch&oldid=770283380.

 

You can't argue with a brain dead troll..these types will go on arguing for the sake of arguing. Just like he states Alaska will be taken back by force along with California!