Is it time to invade North Korea?

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Should the United States bomb/invade North Korea?

  1. We should leave them alone.

    23 vote(s)
    37.7%
  2. We should take out there nuclear bombs with an air stike but stop there.

    9 vote(s)
    14.8%
  3. We should fully invade, becuase the nut running NK needs to go.

    6 vote(s)
    9.8%
  4. I don't know

    6 vote(s)
    9.8%
  5. Only if China helps us fight them.

    7 vote(s)
    11.5%
  6. Only if the UN votes and agrees to help us fight them.

    10 vote(s)
    16.4%
  1. dairyair

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    The same way Russia is handled today. Israel and every other Nuclear country in the world.
     
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    Impossible. To ground forces to attack. NK's Kim want nuclear war. Armageddon is not here yet.
     
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    Thank you I really appreciate it.
     
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    Then that wouldn't be a nuclear war, just more terrorist attacks.
     
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    That wouldn't be a nuclear war either.
     
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    I can see the logic in your thinking... and I do like some aspects of economic pressure you suggest, especially about the coal. Thanks to the Obama regime, we've all but put the coal industry out of business in this country, but it could definitely serve a purpose in overall foreign policy!
    But I do disagree that this is the only way to handle this dangerous, demagogic pustule in North Korea. His delusional psychoses notwithstanding, Kim was born and bred into a culture that respects only unrelenting, belligerent, harshly-projected POWER. The molly-coddling, weak-sister technique used by Bill Clinton, "W" Bush, and Barack Obama has brought us to this point -- North Korea has nuclear weapons, and ballistic missiles that have a farther and farther "reach" with the passing of every year.

    You ask, how would I, personally, handle the situation with North Korea? That's the question? OK....

    I would inform Kim personally, in no uncertain terms, that if he launches one more ballistic missile designed for offensive use, or detonates one more nuclear weapon, the United States would utterly destroy any and all sites used in connection with nuclear research and development and/or ballistic missile technologies. I would supplement that statement with a warning that if North Korea were to engage in any large-scale hostile action of any kind against the United States or any of our allies, we would begin destroying everything in North Korea that facilitates its ability even to function as a country. Short, and sweet. In about four days, North Koreans would be hard-pressed to get a cup of clean drinking water or find a roll of toilet paper. THAT is how we must be prepared to deal with a creature like Kim....

    It doesn't need to be any more complicated than that, and it shouldn't be, or else a man with a mind-set like Kim's would find a way to think, "They don't mean it! The U. S. is a paper-tiger that bows to Muslims, and sings "Kumbaya" to its enemies". We must make certain that he does not make that crucial error....
     
  7. dairyair

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    And if China is equally opposed to us bombing in their neighborhood and decides to treat our action with the same action?
     
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    Uh, no. China doesn't love North Korea more than themselves. They might try to punish us, but not in that way.
     
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    And that's a certainty?
    What do you think they would do to punish us?
     
  10. Pollycy

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    The Chinese would go on high alert, rattle sabers, come out with lots of angry talk, build more artificial islands in the South China Sea, move to strengthen their ties with Russia (which they are doing anyway), and -- that's about it....

    The Chinese need us like the air that they breathe in order to prosper economically. By the same token, the Chinese need North Korea like they need a pimple on their ass.

    Look. The Chinese would never, ever let things get THAT bad. They would pull strings and depose Kim themselves before they let him push things to the point where there would be a devastating, hot war going on. It's not because they're such nice guys... no, it's more because they don't want millions of starving North Koreans surging across their border and flooding into China. Also, believe this: the Chinese don't want the North Koreans to be in a position where they could wage war on China itself!

    All in all -- relax! Nothing of any real importance is going to happen. Something is probably going to "happen" to Kim, sometime in the next year or so. Will the Chinese have anything to do with that? Will we Americans? Will the South Koreans? Will the Japanese? Oooh! So MANY possibilities!
     
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    In your dreams.

    North Korea could transfer a small yield nuclear device to terrorist groups who would use them on targets in the US.
     
  12. dairyair

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    Already discussed. Anyone can devise a nuclear device and target in the US. Someone born right here in the USA.
     
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    Let's not start ww3, k? Thx.
     
  14. dairyair

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    Why won't nothing happen?
     
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    Because neither Russia, China or the US wants war between any major nuclear nations. Nothing will happen.
     
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    "Why won't nothing (sic) happen?", you ask.... :confusion:

    OK, let me try this again, with a little bit of added emphasis....

    "The Chinese need us like the air that they breathe in order to prosper economically. By the same token, the Chinese need North Korea like they need a pimple on their ass.

    The Chinese would never, ever let things get THAT bad. They would pull strings and depose Kim themselves before they let him push things to the point where there would be a devastating, hot war going on. It's not because they're such nice guys... no, it's more because they don't want millions of starving North Koreans surging across their border and flooding into China. Also, believe this: the Chinese don't want the North Koreans to be in a position where they could wage war on China itself!
    "
     
  17. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    And what if Un's response is to immediately nuke Seoul and Tokyo? (the ones he sends to Los Angeles and New York land in the Pacific)

    Oh and one small correction, most North Koreans are hard pressed to find clean water and toilet paper NOW.
     
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    My thought also.
    But you did say, you'd give a warning, now, and if he does it again, bomb certain parts of NK.
    I say he will do it again, so by your statement, bombing NK is almost a certainty.

    But now you're saying he won't do anything. I disagree, he will.
     
  19. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    And let me add this to that:

    Your own words were: "Kim was born and bred into a culture that respects only unrelenting, belligerent, harshly-projected POWER." So why you think he will back down at the first push is beyond me. The most fatal error we could do is to make him think we ARE going to invade and it's all over for him, because then he's going to exercise the nuclear option. Trump is, apparently, good at telling people "what do you have to lose?" but that is not really a question we want Un to be considering
     
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    Except that there was only one, and he was only an actor, and he's dead
     
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    Well Trump has given the "keys" to the Military leadership because the media has been beating him over the head with comments about letting our experts handle things.

    So now he is taking there advice and getting praised as a leader for it. I think if something happens it's because he listened to our established government expert's. JFK knew better in 1963 but Trump who knows.
     
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    Trump can probably get away with decapitating the NK regime if he can do it fast and without sending in the troops.
    Any attempt to occupy NK will be a mess - even if China and Russia do not intervene.
     
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    If his reaction would be to nuke either South Korea or Japan then (if I had the command authority) we would reduce North Korea to becoming a country that cannot maintain even the basic functions of being a country. We start with everything the NK military has, and continue on through everything NK needs to provide power, mobility, food, water, sanitation, etc. We go in from the air, hard and fast... and unrelenting. One bombing mission after another, as much as needed.

    Oddly enough, I would not recommend using our own nuclear weapons. Why not? We might get lucky in the first stages of retaliation and kill Kim and his military command structure outright. Then, NK could surrender. Having as much of their infrastructure intact would make it easier for the South Koreans and ourselves to move in and establish order there.

    I'd use thermobaric weapons instead of nukes. All the destruction, and none of the radiation! I suspect we've got TB weapons that are quite a bit more destructive over a much larger area than the "MOAB" showpiece we staged in Afghanistan a few days ago.... When we and our allies go into NK to take over, we don't want to be fighting dangerous radiation levels on top of everything else.
     
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  24. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I'm sure the several tens of millions of dead Koreans and Japanese will be proud to know they helped to Make America Great Again by participating in the single greatest destruction of human lives in history. WWI, WWII, the Great Flu, even the Black Death, you've just made them all look like minor inconveniences just to satisfy some chest beating. Isn't conservatism wonderful? Shouldn't we put people who think like this into critical positions all the time?
     
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    Most of the NK population would welcome his demise, as would most of his officer corp and troops.
     
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