College Degree in order to vote

And so it was written, the Democratic Dictatorial Regime. And you were complaining about Donald Trump? Though as I say this, I admit: I do want a purely intellectual political class. But it won't come just from majoring in the Sciences(unless Political Science.) Indeed, being purely rational about it, we should say to ban everyone who doesn't have political science or political experience. But that'd drop the numbers way down lol. Instead, let's bring back the Civics test. Anyone who doesn't score 70% shouldn't vote(I got 85-90% so I'm not a hypocrite.)

 

You mean like a civics course in HS except your test is for idiots that didn't pay attention in HS or their school failed to teach them?

 

STEM degrees, law degrees, business degrees - all essentially useless with high unemployment figures for people who possess them. But they are profitable for the banks who make student loans and trustees who make millions every year from those worthless degrees. Best if these schools were shut down, allow the graduate unemployment list to become exhausted, and then re-open the schools after everyone has finally found some use for those degrees.

 

I see what you mean. I do feel that folks need to be aware of what they are even voting for. I don't know how to make that happen though. Because people have different types of smart. Something needs to be done though besides a popularity contest.

 

The left opposed requiring an ID because supposedly poor people cant afford it/dont have transportation to get one. You do understand a college degree is more expensive than an ID, and that many people - including a large number of minorities in inner cities - cannot afford to go to college?

 

What was your major for these worthless degrees?

 

Yes and no. Academia has a lot of people trying to get STEM positions where there is a dearth of jobs, but in government and corporation jobs there are many jobs available.

https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2015/article/stem-crisis-or-stem-surplus-yes-and-yes.htm

 

Totally agree.
Robert Heinlein in one of his books put forward the idea that only those who served their country should be allowed to vote.

 

I don't believe this for one second. Very often Democrats vote for the best candidate, in their view, be it a repub or dem.

 

All very good ideas, but why stop there?

 

Fine make it completely free including books, treat it like going to High School and give it to everyone regardless of aptitude and dumb it down enough so most can pass, otherwise it favors economically strong social groups who can afford to go to college normally and pisses on the poor.

 

Is this sarcasm? I can't tell, Dems voted for a part time Senator that voted present that never so much as ran a lemonade stand. "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."

 

And I had a college english professor whose doctoral thesis was on Shakesperaean sonnets that thought 10% of a hundred was the same amount as 10 per cent of a thousand. And es thing are much different now. A doctorate actutally used to mean something beyond the fact that you went to class and avoided pissing off any of your professors.

 

Yes, that basically covers it. Of course half the high schools don't even teach civics any more, so it would also be for the kids who would have paid attention if they'd been given a chance. My "test" idea is less about proving a voter is smart enough and more about proving a voter cares enough to understand why we vote at all.

 

Exactly, how far you want to go?

 

I don't think it would change anything. The knowledge of the voter is not the problem. The politicians and the political system are the problem. Our two party system has become too polarized and driven by the extremes of each party. Our political discourse has become childish and nonsensical. One side screams fake news, the other screams alternative facts, neither side accomplishes meaningful legislation. In fact, there is divide betweem where the two groups of people get their information. Most of the time the information is contradictory; yet, both sides stubbornly hold their beliefs. There is no middle ground anymore.

Finally, we allow our politicians to lie or break campaign promises without any repercussions. Donald Trump could break every campaign promise and he will still have people supporting him. If Hilary Clinton were president, she could do the same and still garner support too. Again, there is no middle ground. This needs to change.

 

I have a Master's degree, but I totally disagree with your assertion. Did you know that a poll taken about 20 years ago of college graduates asked the question "where does the Federal Government get its money from?" 67% of them said the Government has their own money. 62% were unable to identify four well known Generals with the war they served in. Maybe that is an indictment of the public school system. While I do believe that in general college graduates tend to be more articulate, it does not necessarily make them smarter or more well informed. I once worked with a guy who had two Master's degrees from Harvard, but he has as much common sense as a piece of cow dung! While I consider myself to be well educated, I would choose common sense & critical thinking skills over a degree! While a degree will open doors for you, the other two will take you much further in life!

 

Maybe we should make everybody pass a test, even if they don't have to have an ID. Or I suppose we could just let elites and snobs vote for our leaders. I mean we wouldn't want Joe the plumber to have any say; or Eric Hoffer... or Bill Gates... or Michael Dell... or maybe even Steve Jobs (his having a degree is debatable)... or, or, or etc; certainly not when we can let the frat brats choose for us.

 

Not sarcastic at all. There have been Republicans elected President, yes? They didn't get there through osmosis. Obviously some
dems voted for them, no?

 

What's next after women?

 

Colleges don't teach you that much about politics, so I don't see why it should be a requirement for voting.

 

You wouldn't have been able to vote so wtf are you talking about?

 

Yes but in Starship Troopers ANYONE could do Federal Service all you had to know is understand the oath if you were disabled or any other condition they had to take you and it was two years and could be anything the armed forces, science, testing experimental space suits, being a test subject for new drugs or mining ore in a remote outpost on some asteroid. So its a good idea but you need to open it to everyone and it must be blind to all conditions going to college isn't that is it?

 

if you subtracted liberal arts or humanities degrees id be great with this idea.

But then, that would cut the liberal educated voting pool by 2/3s

 

If they are useless, imagine the brain dead schlumps with stupid liberal arts degrees that are largely incapable algebra