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There has never been nor will ever be free healthcare in the USA

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by TheDonald, Dec 29, 2017.

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  1. TheDonald

    TheDonald Well-Known Member

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    Unless you are an illegal Mexican under Obama, Americans pay for everything. Too bad that democrats have no idea
     
    TheDonald, Dec 29, 2017
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    I'm pretty sure they are using the "free" part in the same way that all communists have used it in the past. The French revolution saw the rich being guillotined and their stuff taken for free. The chinese did the same thing minus the guillotine during the cultural revolution, just as they did in Russia during the october revolution, just as they did in cambodia, cuba, korea, vietnam, etc. etc. etc.

    In other words, they know it isn't free. It's more like free as in stolen property isn't earned. If I go to your house and take your TV, that's free to me.

    That's how they use the word "free".
     
    Belch, Dec 29, 2017
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    Yes, you have the upfront co-pay all Americans would be forced to pay, but hey, it’s not as bad as allowing insurance companies to mooch off their customers.
     
    Balto, Dec 30, 2017
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    Agreed 100%. Nothing is free. Though to be honest I think most people realize it even when they refer to it as ‘free’. Just quicker to say ‘free’ than ‘society picks up the cost for the end recipient
     
    willburroughs, Dec 30, 2017
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    Free in socialist is someone else pays for it whether they want to or not.
     
    garyd, Dec 30, 2017
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    That's the socialist definition not mine. There is no free anything anywhere. There never has been and never will be. One should bear in mind the old dictum that you get what you pay for.
     
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    There is no society, just you................. Since we all get healthcare, we are paying for our own under this plan, and the fing Mexicans who never pay for anything
    Obamacare offers people healthcare with 7,000.00 deductibles that no poor family can afford, did they get what they paid for
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NOTHING is free, someone has to pay for it.
     
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    How about Russians? Are they paying. They're certainly interested.Right?
     
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    Who pays for YOUR healthcare?
     
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    The Russians could care less about American healthcare. They are only interested on CNN
     
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    Nobody said there was except you.

    You made up words to put in other people's mouths, and are arguing with your own made up false construct.

    That's what a straw man argument is.
     
    TomFitz, Dec 30, 2017
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    Still think your neighbors owe you something I see
     
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    Yeah, wanting the "rich" to pay more than you isn't really wanting something for free.
    Give it a rest. You're part of the free **** crowd, through and through
     
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    But here you are...does Vlad know?
     
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    Where'd ya go logical?
     
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    Even under ACA Americans paid for everything. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
     
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    You mean, like armies, roads, postal services, borders, public utilities and the such?
     
    MVictorP, Dec 30, 2017
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    That principle began with Hippocrates: The physician serves whom he chooses.
     
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    Wrong, there is free healthcare, if you are a Mexican bloodsucker
     
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    So you want to give free healthcare to hippos too.....................
     
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    No physician in their right mind wants to give away free services or cheap services, especially with their high overhead and mountainous paperwork costs.

    The exception would be when funds come from the outside for charity, and not out of the physicians hide, like doctors without borders.
     
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    Society does not pay, the user pays as a part of society. Furthermore society never pays the deductible of $7,000.00, that is always paid by the individual. So saying that society pays is bullshit
     
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    I would give free healthcare to a hippo before an illegal Mexican bloodsucker
     
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