Turkey Will Attack US Kurds In One Week If They Don't Withdraw

Just as long as you keep it pro-Assad and anti-American, that's what matters, right? It's OK to help the Kurds, but gee gosh golly, we can't allow Assad's Syria to be affected! Not when Russia is pro-Assad. Nosiree! Thus you will attempt to revise history and established facts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistan


You will notice that "Kurdistan" most definitely includes parts of Syria.

 

Kurdistan couldn't include even itself There are several kinds of Kurds. And every part of Kurds cut off heads of other parts of Kurds. I would name Kurds as headless. Because in Russian the "headless" means an idiot.

 

FUBAR... English is a very difficult language. I never can study it

 

Like the Trump administration.

 

It's German

 

This is really a good humor, but to me it's not funny.

 

It seems like this. The Germans never select expressions.

 

How sane would it be to help them take over parts of other sovereign countries? We can help the Kurds in other ways, but to help them do that would be stupid.

 

The Iraqis needed some help against ISIS. I have no problem with the US and other countries, like yours, going over and helping destroy such a crazy and bloody group of a-holes as that. They should have sent more forces and got it done faster.

 

Turkey Will Attack US Kurds In One Week If They Don't Withdraw

What part of the US will Turkey attack the Kurds in??

 

It is a very important part of the USA. It's the hegemony of the United States of America.

 

Take a good look at that map, and notice that most of the Kurds are in Turkey and then Iran and Iraq. It doesn't include the oil and gas rich lands the US wants the Kurds to have. Also they are not in the majority in many of the places in Syria, and most of the Kurds settled in Syria in the past 100 years to escape persecution in Turkey.

Don't you think it's a little unjust for a country like Syria which welcomes everyone, to be suffering because of it, while the tyrannical ones get away with murder - literally?

As for me backing Russia and Syria, maybe because they're in the right? I have a very strong sense of justice, to my detriment many times.

 

You mean what part of the US protectorate will they attack the Kurds in. It's Afrin, and they already started. This is from Sputnik:

The president (Erdogan) recalled the US military support of the Kurdish armed groups in Syria, saying that the US had sent 5,000 trucks with weapons to the Syrian Kurds.

After the Turkish Air Forces' sledge-hammer attack on the territory of Syria's Afrin on January 20, which resulted in the damage of 108 targets out of 113 planned, the country launched a ground operation in the area on January 21.​

 

Don't feel bad, I had to look up Fubar.

 

Lady, I am absolutely sure you still don't know what it means!

 

Here are a few things of interest from: WWW. fort-russ.com

IMPORTANT: Nearly a week ago, a meeting between Russian officials and Kurdish leaders took place. Moscow suggested the Syrian State should be the only entity in charge of the northern border. The Kurds refused. It was immediately after that that the Turkish Generals were invited to Moscow

Having the Syrian State in control of its Northern Border wasn't the only Russian demand. The other was that the Kurds hand back the oil fields in Deir al Zor. The Kurds refused suggesting that the US won't allow that anyway. The meeting was not exactly a success.

Possible things to look for: Kurds opening a front in Eastern Syria (where the US Army is present) to lure the Turks to attack from there. Other potential unrest of course is the Kurdish-dominated Southern part of Turkey itself. Yes, things may have just started​

 

I'd say, it never was ending

 

You can't have a FUBAR without a SNAFU...

 

And the latest from: WWW.fort-russ.com

The soldiers of the Kurdish YPG militia have destroyed five Turkish tanks. One of the tanks was hit by an anti-tank missile in the vicinity of the Kurdo village of the Bilbil district, two tanks in the village of Dikmetash in the Sindires district and two more in the vicinity of the town of Tell Rifat, where fierce fighting is taking place.

The Turkish city of Reyhanli was subjected to rocket fire from Afrin earlier, there are wounded. ​

 

If you have a strong sense of justice, how can you support a dictator like Assad? That does not make sense, or would not if I did not already know that you rely on fake news for your information.

Anyway, regarding oil-rich lands in Syria, it seems IS has been controlling most of them:

http://www.mdpi.com/2076-0760/5/2/20/htm
Abstract:
The sale of oil and gas is one of the most important components of the Syrian economy. Unfortunately, since the discovery of these resources, the Syrian people have not benefited from the revenues earned. This study deals with the development of oil and gas production and the geographical distribution of fields, as well as production control, deterioration of production, refining and selling mechanisms, and the resulting health and environmental impacts following Islamic State’s (IS) control of the majority of oilfields in Syria. Since summer 2015, IS controls 80% of the fields with a production of 65,000 barrels per day (b/d); the Assad regime controls 8% of fields with 10,000 b/d; and Kurdish forces dominate the remaining 12% with 25,000 b/d. IS depends on oil as a major source of financing for its military and civilian activities, and has also managed to set up an extensive network of middlemen in neighbouring territories and countries, with the aim of trading crude oil for cash and other resources. IS produces and exports within its areas of control and sells part of the oil to the Assad regime, and another portion to the liberated areas, as well as to Iraq and Turkey.



It looks to me as though most of the oil-rich lands are located pretty far away from the Kurds.

 

Actually the thousands of oil tankers Russia bombed, were coming from Raqqa and heading towards Turkey, and the US destroyed the whole city and now it's in the hands of the Kurds. The only reasoning I can see for the US destroying the city, was to ethnically cleanse it of its Arab inhabitants, and replace them with Kurds.

As for Assad, I always knew him as the most tolerant leader in the Middle East, and before the war started, the Syrians I knew were praising him. Many even moved back to Syria. I also know he is supported by the majority of Syrians, and let's face it, it is their country and no one has the right to decide who they should want and who they shouldn't want for their president.

There were many non Alawite Syrians who wanted more say in Assad's government, and Lavrov has been working on it, and Assad has taken it into account. The Sunnis who are the majority wanted of course to run Syria as they do other countries in the Middle East, but the minorities combined did come to more than the Sunnis. When the war started, and the Sunnis realized that the Sunnis the US was supporting were jihadist extremists from the Gulf states, the majority of Sunnis also began backing Assad.

As for the killing of protesters and children, that was as much propaganda and garbage as the false flag chemical attacks. There were embedded snipers like in Ukraine, and they were killing both protesters and police. There is nothing against Assad that can be believed, no more than they can against Putin. I trust the Syrian people. What a pity the American people are being deceived this way.

 

That's all Alawites are really, Muslim flavored Christians. You could say that's all Muslims if you're familiar with their theology (the Quran makes a bigger deal of Jesus and Mary than the Gospels) but the Alawites are REALLY Christian leaning, right down to rituals and holidays, a major reason more orthodox Muslims take issue with them.

Of course Assad is a brutal dictator that started a civil war over some teens tagging a wall and with the IS being less of a distraction from that fact it makes since that secular thinking takes hold in the Syrian Civil War. That he still has Christian support comes from the fact that anything other than Assad or the Kurds winning the war end with their annihilation since everyone else is some flavor of Islamist.

 

Actually no... I think we'll just have some space to return some of what we got my friend Vladimir...

Here, check out this:
tps://twitter.com/neslihanonderr/status/955215589450092544?s=09

You know what he says there?

I'm muslim like you too, we are here to protect you from the terrorist PKK. Just let us know anything you need we'll do. We are your brothers.

The old man replies; may God be with you.

That was from a Kurdish village in Afrin, called Kurni. Here's the list of Turkmen villages of Afrin only:

1)Toward south from central Afrin:

Deli Osman, Bindirek, Velidli, Deli Oğlan, Güvende, Tepeköy, Koruköy, Pullu, Sokallı, Atamanlı, Aliviran, Firfirik, Meydanlıoba, Alemdar, Çakmak, Küçüksokalı Öksüzlü, Göbekköyü, Dağ Obası, Şeyler Obası, Dik Obası ve Mağara.

2)Due South of Gaziantep border:

Bülbül, Baliköy, Beğ Obası, Mahmut Oba, Kaleköy, Ziyaretköy, Serenci, Orta Oba, Aşağı Oba, Salkaya, Ali Beğ, Karışık, Konak, Hıdırlı, Çolaklı, Sağır Oba, Kuru Göl, Kaş Uzadı, Bebe Uşadı, Kurt Uşatı, Alkanlı, Duraklat,
Alıcı, Kızılbaş, Küçük Kargın (Derviş Köyü), Belen, Naz Uşağı, Meydanlık, Çorbacıoğlu ve Anbarlı.

3)From Cercim creek to north:

Derviş Oba, Küçük Atamanlı, Kadı Köyü, Mamalı Uşağı, Ömer Uşağı, Sarı Uşak, Kantarlı, Birincilik, Kantara, Mabedii, Çömezli, Al Cura, Hacı Kasımlı, Arslanın Köyü, Satı Uşağı, Kışla Köy, Selçik, Çakallı, Şeyh Çakallık, İnkale, Aşağı Kışla, Dar Güney, Subaşı, Çolaklar, Karabaş, Büyük Çakallı, Hacı Hasanlı, Aşağı Çobanlı, Tatarhanlı, Karanköy, Kocaman, Şeyh Abdurrahman Gazi, Gümüş Burç, Yaha Goz, Hacdar, Aceli, Hacı İskender.

4)East of Cebeli Seman and Afrin Suyu Valley (From North to South):

Kurt Kulağı, Kara Kurt Kulağı, Karatepe, Kersen Taş (Nahiye Merkezi), Masut, Burç Gaziler, Çadırköy, İskanköy, Celeme, Eski Celeme, Göl Bayılı, Yukarı Divan, Molla Halil, Atmaköy.

5) Between Azez and Afrin Suyu Valley:

İki Dam, Dam, Kuzuncu Pınar, Arpa Veren, Dikmetaş, Kozcupınarı, Umranlı, Büyük Kargın, Ali Beyli, Çimenli, Direkli, Aşağı Dam, Kastal, Ziyaret, Katma, Metini, Ali köyü.

6) East of Azez:

Sucu, Kefer, Parça, Kefersuç, İğde, Havar, Hacar, Nasmiye, Telbattal, Kısacık, Telşahin, Çeke, Dudan, Kuru Mezra, Bağdili, Karaköprü, Yeniyapan, Mırgıl, Şamandıra, Savran, Tuğlu, Kızılmezra, Barak, Kefer, Kani, Tel Hüseyin, Yelbabal, El Beğli, Yahnil ve Defterdar.

I can keep going like this all the way down to Aleppo... I don't even touch the east of Euphrates. Turkish presence is even clearer....

So keep this in mind and never forget:

Syria is historically our backyard and neither Iran nor Russia does have any kind of national/religious/ethnic/cultural tie to the country that is as natural and as closer as what we have been having with it for CENTURIES...

So just because you got hold of the strings of a stupid puppet doesn't mean you are no INVADERS here... And just because we balance the US by taking advantage of the changing global wind via keeping Russia company doesn't necessarily mean we go with Russian way or the high way... Alright? We know how many Atlanticists there are in Kremlin... So we weigh in because we know the US doesn't want to lose the east of Euphrates as it wants to keep it for its future plan that is to give the region a shape of a federation with a leading Turkish rule. You do absolutely nothing to change this... Actually you agree with the plan because you know you can enjoy this limited power you were given BY THE UNITED STATES for a while before things got settled as they are supposed to be... And so does Iran... They better keep their asses getting evolved into some kind of Turkish modernity soon or they know real well that they are gonna be on fire as hell...

Lastly...

Many of you here do nothing more than masturbating on behalf of those stupid states... Some of you guys even don't have the guts to post without stolen identities/pictures/names... Hope youll not be left out with only discrediting yourselves...

 

Fine. But how many kurds live there in Afrin and North of Syria..., and in Turkey as well? I mean turks didn't succeed into making their identity to turks and haven't had succesfull genocide of this ethnic group. This means that you will have to live together in different states and in your own state anyway. it's only a question if there is peace or war.

The region itself is sooo complicated that EVERYONE can be viewed as an invader. Including Turkey as well... It seems that the only way out is to sit around the table with all the groups involved. Including Iran and Turkey under somewhat a protection of either USA or Russia... or both if there still is any chance.

Even if Turkish strike is more efficient than ISIS's it won't end the war but only make it wider and more complicated. Let's imagine that tomorrow you destroyed Kurdish military. What's next? The territory won't be annexed. No matter of cultural and historical relationship. Otherwise Russia would have retaken most developed provinces or former soviet republics. Turkey won't just give away the territory to Assad without conditions and these conditions need to be agreed by Iran. At least. They have the same problem with kurds.

That is exactly the attitude of a free person from sovereign state. But it often means wars. The value of sovereignty consists of tons of human blood spilt only to get it. This is why it is a value if we keep in mind that every life of these is priceless.

Which means annexation? It won't happen. Even Kosovo precedent opened a way to numerous troubles. The only way is to find a compromise between the nations and states involved. And that is only a half way, because then the people need to find political way to convince the strongest countries from security council. The war will allways find the sides who want it. And thus it is senseless.

True. It refers to everyone here. We are watching the policy done by the other guys and discuss it. So it can be compared with porn and masturbation. But it refers to You as well.

 

Your logic is impeccable. Almost. In fact, almost not at all.

The facts are that the US invasion of Iraq created ISIS in the first place (HERE). Later, the US and UK gave sustenance and weapons to ISIS in Syria (HERE and HERE) for its regime change plan there.

Which only leaves me to say that I do have a problem with your country and mine creating the best enemy money can buy. But c'est la view; much the same thing has been happening for a very long time.