Seventy percent of Americans support 'Medicare for all' in new poll

price control = doctor shortages = waiting periods = people dying waiting for treatment

 

That is a rare, event and the exception not the rule with Capitalist Medical care. However, with your scenario, you steal from ALL children and grandchildren and generations to come and screw their economic futures with a selfish act.

 

Neither bankruptcies or death are rare events with Trumpcare.

In fact Donald Trump has been through several himself.

 

Maybe true, that is until they hear how much their taxes will go up, the yearS long waiting line for non-emergency surgery, the waiting lines in general, death penalties (yes these will come) and all the horrible things that come with UHC.

 

Donald Trump will start a war to take their minds off their miseries while they watch foreigners being bombed to death on their TVs.

 

Wow you are a witty one. No wonder you support people like Cortez whose policies lead to Venezuela, NK and Cuba!

 

Donald Trump's policies lead to Venezuela, NK and Cuba.

It is arguable that all those countries could have been better if diplomacy was used instead of the threat of military action, sanctions, and surreptitious economic and political acts.

 

^^^ It's amusing to watch Leftists in total denial of how their ideology leads to collapse and misery and often mass murder by an authoritarian government.

 

Trump is planning a mass murder? 5th Avenue?

 

Why'd you cut this part from your article out?

"The study’s author, Charles Blahous, wrote in The Wall Street Journal earlier this month that even doubling taxes would not cover the bill for a single-payer health-care system."

 

1. Because health insurance payments are a tax; and

2. Because moderators act against you if more than one or two sentences are quoted from an article.

 

1. I know you'd love to see them as another tax....But the author of the very study you're so excited about, says it can't be done.

2. I am pretty sure that sentence would have been fine. I think you purposely left it out to decieve.

 

This is the reason health care costs are high. Rip-offs by hospitals with grossly and brazenly exorbitant charges.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...heart-attack-leaves-teacher-with-108-951-bill

 

I have friends and family in Canada, and they have never had to deal with long wait times. Not one single person I know ( and this includes medical doctors in canada ) would trade our system for their system. Not a single one.

 

The REAL reason that conservatives hate healthcare for all is that they believe that someone who is undeserving of something will receive something they do not deem them worthy of.

Im not saying conservatives want poor people to die. They just simply dont care one way or the other. As long as that person pays, they can live. If they cant, they deserve whatever happens. If thats death, so be it. Thats the way life is supposed to work for them.

 

Apples and oranges. The US is not Canada and we simply can't take a Canadian model and put it to work in our country. I have also heard of stories stating that Canadians will go to New York and have procedures operations because the healthcare and doctors are far better.

 

Stories

And it has been years since that were true

Now of course there is a thriving medical tourism trade to Asia from the USA

 

Really, "years" huh? Just made up stories? This is from June 2018:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallyp...e-waiting-for-medical-treatment/#45d281ce3e7d

 

Source

Fraser institute a right wing "think tank" (read AstroTurf) that is an associate member of the State Policy Network. The Koch brothers propaganda arm

Give me something a little less biased and more reliable please

https://www.vox.com/2016/10/9/13222798/canadians-seeking-medical-care-us-trump-debate

 

Bowerbird, try Google, or something: Even your "far left rags" admit Canada healthcare isn't all that great:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/canadian-medical-tourism_us_5949b405e4b0db570d3778ff

Try and look at facts and stop warping things to fit your narrative.

 

Hi Bowerbird,

We've known each other for a long, long time, (since Whistlestopper) and I can not believe what I am reading here....You are attacking Bucky's post for offering a Forbes article using the Frasier Institute as a source, while you post Vox in rebuttal?

"The website was founded ... Ezra Klein left The Washington Post"

Come on now....

The OP, even had this sentence in it...

"The study’s author, Charles Blahous, wrote in The Wall Street Journalearlier this month that even doubling taxes would not cover the bill for a single-payer health-care system."

what say you about that?

 

Healthcare is terminally ill - and Obamacare did not change this.

What is more interesting is the rising support for Universal healthcare among Republicans - including some Republican elite such as the KOCH brothers who did a study showing how UH would cost us less than we are currently playing.

Publications (not known for "Liberal tendencies") such as the "American Conservative" are unabashedly stumping for Universal Healthcare.

The Conservative Case for Universal Healthcare
Why in five years, the American right will embrace socialized medicine.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-conservative-case-for-universal-healthcare/

"Well Spank my Ass and call me a Redneck Martha ! - The American Conservative is stumping for Socialism"

The GDP comparison 18% to 11% actually understates how much more expensive our HC system is. A dollar of US-GDP does not generate as much revenue into Gov't coffers as a Dollar of GDP for these other nations.

We have to do something - these costs are killing us. If UHC is much cheaper and delivers more - we need to go that direction rather than maintain the current abomination which I refer to as an "Oligopoly-Bureaucracy Fusion Monster"

 

You are being conned

Remember I live I a country with a national health care system that costs us less and has better outcomes than yours in terms of longevity and infant mortality.

I work in one of the more remote parts of Australia and yet if one of our residents here needs care we cannot provide they and a relaive are flown free of charge to the nearest hospital able to care for them even if that hospital is over one and a half thousand kilometers away.

You are already paying for your health care. One of the reasons why you have stagnant wages is cost of health care

Sorry this is from an ABC Aus program called "Planet America" . You will need to look at the segment called the Deep dive on wages

http://www.abc.net.au/news/programs/planet-america/

 

Oh I remember where you're from...But the fact remains that your beautiful country has a population of around 24 million, Not to mention your system is not totally single payer....Your taxes are higher, and in some cases you may still need to come out of pocket for treatment....

For what it's worth, I think that both sides of our political isle are moving in that direction, but I have grave concerns applying a system that covers 24 million into a country of 320 million....Way different parameters.

 

So pharmaceuticals cause less damage if someone else pays?